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Old Mon Apr 29, 2013, 06:04am
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Keeping a coach in the coaching box, it allows the official to exert control over situations ...
Control by not following the rules? The coach, by rule, doesn't have to stay in his coaching box during timeouts, he has to stay in his team's timeout bench area. Game management is important, but stay within the rules, then you'll have no problem answering the phone call from your assigner early the next morning.
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Old Mon Apr 29, 2013, 01:33pm
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Control by not following the rules? The coach, by rule, doesn't have to stay in his coaching box during timeouts, he has to stay in his team's timeout bench area. Game management is important, but stay within the rules, then you'll have no problem answering the phone call from your assigner early the next morning.
I disagree. It is a timeout area for timeouts. If he is not using the area to coach his team but to bark at an official, it isn't a timeout area anymore. If he's doing enough to earn a T, it doesn't really matter anyway. He can still be T'd even if he were in the coaching box.
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Old Mon Apr 29, 2013, 06:25pm
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I disagree. It is a timeout area for timeouts. If he is not using the area to coach his team but to bark at an official, it isn't a timeout area anymore. If he's doing enough to earn a T, it doesn't really matter anyway. He can still be T'd even if he were in the coaching box.
And I also disagree. Where in the rules does it say what a coach is allowed to do (we have plenty of rules that tell us what he's not allowed to do) during a timeout? Who says that he has to "coach his team"? How about a citation? And exactly what does "coach his team" mean? What if he just wants to give his players a rest? What if he just wants to give his players time to get a drink? What if he just wants to give one of his players a chance to tie his shoes? What if he just wants to get a substitute into the game? What if he has a correctable error situation and needs to approach the table? What if he just wants to walk out to the nearer free throw lane line extended and gaze into the crowd, or at the scoreboard, to calm himself down because he's pissed at his players, or pissed at the officials, and wants to cool off before he does something stupid. All of these are legal, by rule. Threaten a technical foul for any one of these and you'll have a "lot of splainin to do" if you follow through on your threat (I assume that your assigner is Ricky Ricardo).

If it's not illegal, then it's legal, and he can do anything legal that he wants to do in his team's timeout bench area.

I do agree with part of your post. If he's "bark(ing) at an official", and he's doing enough to earn a technical foul, then it doesn't really matter where he is. He can still be charged with the technical foul even if he were in the coaching box. And it's still his time out area, even if you "bang" him. He has the time out area until you throw him out of the gymnasium, and even then, his assistant still has the timeout area. I don't see how the team can lose this area? How about a citation?

This situation reminds me of some uninformed officials (not you Camron Rust) who think that they can "request" a coach to "sit down" without the prerequisite technical foul. Sure, we could do this thirty years ago, with the old seatbelt rule, but not anymore. To make him sit, you have to "bang" him first, and then he sits.
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