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Old Thu Apr 18, 2013, 12:04pm
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I'm not saying its ideal but can you imagine the talent and athleticism of the NCAA game using Olympic/FIBA rules. 24 seconds to shoot, 8 seconds to get it over, only timeouts on dead balls, timeouts in the last 2 minutes advancing the ball, etc etc. More shots, more mistakes creating transtion opportunities, more need to have offesnively skilled players who can make plays, decisiosn and shots on the floor? The game would be fast enough that I think calling fouls is easier.
One thing that needs to be taken into account is the rule book covers all levels of NCAA basketball (NCAAM in this case). What's good for the top level of D-1 where kids are trying to go pro may not necessarily be good for some mid-level D-3 player. Since the overwhelming majority of players aren't going to be pro players the rules are going to skew towards them.
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Old Thu Apr 18, 2013, 01:00pm
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One thing that needs to be taken into account is the rule book covers all levels of NCAA basketball (NCAAM in this case). What's good for the top level of D-1 where kids are trying to go pro may not necessarily be good for some mid-level D-3 player. Since the overwhelming majority of players aren't going to be pro players the rules are going to skew towards them.

I can't disagree, though I'm not sure what this means. The game should be slower and lower scoring so lower level basketball and athletes can play a more boring style more suited to low skilled play?

If middle school and jv girls can get the ball over half in 8 seconds everywhere except the US. Then I think the best young men and women on the planet can get it over in less than 10 or less than 30. I think a D3 kid and fan would rather have a more up tempo high scoring game too. Right now you have a system that rewards the creation of a particular product (large, athletic, coach controlled, grinding teams/athletes) all I'm suggesting is if you want an improved or different product use or adapt rule sets to encourage/reward that product.
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Old Wed Apr 17, 2013, 10:55pm
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The game officials won't call it differently until there is uniform accountability across the country (right now each assignor sets the "standard" in their league).
What rules aren't being enforced due to different coordinator's philosophies?

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Uniform accountability will NOT occur until there is one person/entity overseeing officiating nationwide.
I would say this is never going to happen, but never say never... So, I will say: This is extremely unlikely to happen any time in the near future. (Assuming by "overseeing" you mean "assigning", which I believe is a fair assumption since John Adams does have "oversight" of officiating nationwide already.

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Currently, John Adams, NCAA Coordinator of Men's Basketball Officiating, can only control who/how the NCAA tournament if officiated. When he, or someone else in his position, has control of regular season assignments, THEN the game will be officiated differently.
The NCAA controls the tournament because it is their tournament. Conferences control their conference games because it is their conference. Coaches / schools agree which officials to use for non-conference games because those schools have control over those games (generally they agree to use the home conference officials, but not always).

It's all about control — and there is more interest by the conferences in being able to control their own product than there is in nationwide uniformity. Not that conferences do not want to have consistency around the nation — I just don't think they are willing to give up their control to see that happen.
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Old Thu Apr 18, 2013, 01:35am
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I think there is a push to have regional supervisors that might assign or have 3 or 4 conferences involved where the NCAA oversees those supervisors or assignments. But that might be a guess on my part. I know some at the NCAA level want that kind of system.

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Old Thu Apr 18, 2013, 11:40am
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What rules aren't being enforced due to different coordinator's philosophies?



I would say this is never going to happen, but never say never... So, I will say: This is extremely unlikely to happen any time in the near future. (Assuming by "overseeing" you mean "assigning", which I believe is a fair assumption since John Adams does have "oversight" of officiating nationwide already.



The NCAA controls the tournament because it is their tournament. Conferences control their conference games because it is their conference. Coaches / schools agree which officials to use for non-conference games because those schools have control over those games (generally they agree to use the home conference officials, but not always).

It's all about control — and there is more interest by the conferences in being able to control their own product than there is in nationwide uniformity. Not that conferences do not want to have consistency around the nation — I just don't think they are willing to give up their control to see that happen.
Rules not uniformly being enforced:
- bench decorum
- sportsmanship/taunting
- freedom of movement (hand-check/blocking of cutters/screening)

Simply watch the differences in games between Big East, Big Ten, and PAC-12 games....clear differences!

IF John Adams is able to eliminate the conference assignors and move to Regional Assignors (assigning games for ALL schools w/in a region regardless of conference affiliation), he will be able to hold officials accountable and improve nationwide consistency.

Whenever John sends out a notice of how he wants specific plays/situations handled, within hours individual conference assignors send emails to their staff that essentially say: "don't do it that way...here is how I want it handled in my conference".
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