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grunewar Sun Apr 14, 2013 03:12pm

Is the reverse true?
 
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Originally Posted by deecee (Post 890831)
F--- You = Have a nice day to me.

So, if someone says, "Have a nice day," do I say, "Hey!" :mad:

deecee Sun Apr 14, 2013 03:41pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by grunewar (Post 890874)
So, if someone says, "Have a nice day," do I say, "Hey!" :mad:

Have a nice day != F-- You

bainsey Mon Apr 15, 2013 12:01am

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Originally Posted by JetMetFan (Post 890774)
For me, rec league or no, the "F" gets him a generic T. The "you" upgrades it to a flagrant.

+1

For me, FU is the succinct superlative of the cuss-out, reserved for those you wished dead. Easy flagrant.

JetMetFan Mon Apr 15, 2013 03:23am

Quote:

Originally Posted by yooperbballref (Post 890730)
As im walking to the table another player on that team yells "F--- YOU!!!" to me. With out even thinking, I turn around and give him a T as well.

After the game, I had another official that was in the stands tell me that if he was in my position he would have given the seconds player a double T and ejected him from the game.

One additional thought from here in NJ: Do you really want to give that guy a chance to say that to you twice in the same game? Some things don't deserve a second chance.

Andy Mon Apr 15, 2013 02:12pm

Yelling, F-Bomb, "you" on the end of it....


Oh yeah...he's done for the evening.

rekent Mon Apr 15, 2013 02:34pm

Just out of curiosity: you all say you are not putting up with this in a rec league environment, so does that mean this is a regular T in scholastic games for most of you?

MD Longhorn Mon Apr 15, 2013 03:04pm

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Originally Posted by rekent (Post 891011)
Just out of curiosity: you all say you are not putting up with this in a rec league environment, so does that mean this is a regular T in scholastic games for most of you?

Honestly ... hell no. "F U" directed at me is going to be an ejection, pretty much on any day in any setting.

JRutledge Mon Apr 15, 2013 03:07pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by rekent (Post 891011)
Just out of curiosity: you all say you are not putting up with this in a rec league environment, so does that mean this is a regular T in scholastic games for most of you?

I would say without the curse words, I might have taken care of that situation long before it got to that point. It is just a guess, but that was likely not the first incident of behavior that would border on disrespect. I have a shorter leash with any non-school sanctioned game.

Then again I would not work a Men's league game for these kinds of reasons. Even AAU is starting to get me to completely avoid those situations too.

Peace

Rooster Mon Apr 15, 2013 10:55pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by deecee (Post 890831)
F--- You = Have a nice day to me.

:confused:

Quote:

Originally Posted by deecee (Post 890878)
Have a nice day != F-- You

Double :confused:

Rooster Mon Apr 15, 2013 10:55pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by MD Longhorn (Post 891016)
Honestly ... hell no. "F U" directed at me is going to be an ejection, pretty much on any day in any setting.

Yep, +1

Welpe Tue Apr 16, 2013 07:21am

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Originally Posted by BillyMac (Post 890852)
No. Sometimes we need some fanfare. Too bad the NFHS doesn't give us the "heave ho" signal, like they have in baseball.

That hasn't stopped me from using it. Official or not, it leaves no doubt as to what just happened.

An F--- you gets a ticket punched in my not so little corner of Southeast Texas.

deecee Tue Apr 16, 2013 08:56am

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Originally Posted by Rooster (Post 891045)
:confused:


Double :confused:

Ha its programming speak. "!=" means not equal to. So what I am saying is that "x equals y" but "y doesn't equal x".

And sometimes equals would be "==" not just "=".

letemplay Tue Apr 16, 2013 09:07am

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Originally Posted by JRutledge (Post 891018)
I would say without the curse words, I might have taken care of that situation long before it got to that point. It is just a guess, but that was likely not the first incident of behavior that would border on disrespect. I have a shorter leash with any non-school sanctioned game.

Then again I would not work a Men's league game for these kinds of reasons. Even AAU is starting to get me to completely avoid those situations too.

Peace

Agreed, AAU and even some youth rec leagues are having uniformed cops show up just for these situations. I helped out the local 15-under league, played now after all high school play is done, and had to throw out a parent, AFTER said "adult" was earlier warned and approached by game administrator and man with badge:( Don't know what this is coming to. The better officials do not want to work these games. It is a good training ground for the younger officials, provided they are working with or under proper supervision. However, some of the behavior seen could easily deter a promising young trainee and have him thinking: "screw this"

rekent Tue Apr 16, 2013 09:11am

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Originally Posted by letemplay (Post 891100)
Agreed, AAU and even some youth rec leagues are having uniformed cops show up just for these situations. I helped out the local 15-under league, played now after all high school play is done, and had to throw out a parent, AFTER said "adult" was earlier warned and approached by game administrator and man with badge:( Don't know what this is coming to. The better officials do not want to work these games. It is a good training ground for the younger officials, provided they are working with or under proper supervision. However, some of the behavior seen could easily deter a promising young trainee and have him thinking: "screw this"

I'm beginning to rethink wanting to ref AAU this summer, hmm...

letemplay Tue Apr 16, 2013 09:19am

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Originally Posted by rekent (Post 891102)
I'm beginning to rethink wanting to ref AAU this summer, hmm...

You should be ok if you feel it is a strong and well run AAU tourney or program, with plenty of administrative supervision and backing of officials. Not sure how you know this going in. A lot of trouble at these things also comes from using untrained volunteers, parents, even players to work the table, where a number of screwups (scoring/timing mistakes, and erroneous # fouls are the most common) can effect a games outcome and in the elimination bracket variety, this can really get people fired up. Guys in stripes take the heat for a lot of this when it is out of their control.


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