Louisville/Michigan- Natl Championship

[pfan1981]

A would like to think a foul is a foul, period. I have heard officials on this forum say that if a team has only one good ball handler that they would try not to foul them out.....what??!?!!?

I had an ugly game where there was easily double bonus for both teams in both halfs. So some quick sports math puts that way over 40. It was a JV girls game, with no real player on either team. What are you suppos to do when they are all blatant? We called two intentional fouls as well. It was so bad the V refs wanted to make sure we knew we could "call" a game over. We knew this but played out the game anyway.

As far as being judged on the fouls you don't call......that seems a bit weird to me.

[APG]

How did these varsity referees suggest one go about "calling" a game over? Is this a specific area thing that is allowed there? I've never heard of anyone calling a game over just because a game was ugly or not well played.

[pfan1981]

Originally Posted by APG

How did these varsity referees suggest one go about "calling" a game over? Is this a specific area thing that is allowed there? I've never heard of anyone calling a game over just because a game was ugly or not well played.

I don't have a rule book in front of me, but there is a stipulation about a game getting out of control. I am at a conference right now, but always watching the forum

[APG]

Originally Posted by pfan1981

I don't have a rule book in front of me, but there is a stipulation about a game getting out of control. I am at a conference right now, but always watching the forum

If you're talking about a forfeit, that occurs if a team refuse to play after being instructed to, failing to comply with any technical foul penalty, repeated technical foul infractions or other acts that make a travesty of the game.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by APG

If you're talking about a forfeit, that occurs if a team refuse to play after being instructed to, failing to comply with any technical foul penalty, repeated technical foul infractions or other acts that make a travesty of the game.

You can't just "call it over" because you don't like how they're playing. If it's that bad, just keep calling the fouls. It will eventually stop.

[pfan1981]

Originally Posted by APG

If you're talking about a forfeit, that occurs if a team refuse to play after being instructed to, failing to comply with any technical foul penalty, repeated technical foul infractions or other acts that make a travesty of the game.

APG. I'll have to check my book at home, I thought I marked this after that game. Anyone else out there hear about this?

[APG]

Originally Posted by pfan1981

APG. I'll have to check my book at home, I thought I marked this after that game. Anyone else out there hear about this?

I'll say this...I've never heard of this. Now maybe this is a local thing there for JV games to make sure varsity games start on time, but as far as I can recall, there's nothing in the rule book as far as "calling" a game except for the reasons I stated earlier (that come from 5-4).

[pfan1981]

APG, I guess they were referring to a travesty. And that it was. I thought the coach soiled herself when she thought she was getting a call, but it definitely was a charge on her girl and not a block on the defender. Her team was playing with three by the end of the game

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by pfan1981

A would like to think a foul is a foul, period. I have heard officials on this forum say that if a team has only one good ball handler that they would try not to foul them out.....what??!?!!?

What the hell is a "foul is a foul?" Fouls are subjective and always will be. And those that call them the way the bosses want will continue and those that don't will not.

Peace

[pfan1981]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

What the hell is a "foul is a foul?" Fouls are subjective and always will be. And those that call them the way the bosses want will continue and those that don't will not.

Peace

I don't want to get in a forum fight here, but I don't think you should let the "bosses" dictate how you officiate. Who are the bosses? Are the affiliated with the mob? Kidding of course, but I call a fair game and a foul in the first is a foul in the 4th, why wouldn't it be? M

[Adam]

Originally Posted by pfan1981

I don't want to get in a forum fight here, but I don't think you should let the "bosses" dictate how you officiate. Who are the bosses? Are the affiliated with the mob? Kidding of course, but I call a fair game and a foul in the first is a foul in the 4th, why wouldn't it be? M

That's rarely what is meant when someone says "a foul is a foul." What is usually meant is "he touched him, so you need to call a foul." It's more aptly described as "I think that's a foul, so these guys are idiots for not calling it."

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by pfan1981

I don't want to get in a forum fight here, but I don't think you should let the "bosses" dictate how you officiate. Who are the bosses? ...

How about they are the folks who pay us to officiate games. They are the folks who select who will work games in a particular conference or for a particular association. They are the folks who decide who works various levels of play-off games.

Who do you think should be deciding who does or doesn't work games?

[Adam]

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef

How about they are the folks who pay us to officiate games. They are the folks who selects who will work games in a particular conference or for a particular association. They are the folks who decide who works various levels of play-offs games.

Who do you think should be deciding who does or doesn't work games?

The magic objective committee of enlightened super people.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by pfan1981

I don't want to get in a forum fight here, but I don't think you should let the "bosses" dictate how you officiate. Who are the bosses? Are the affiliated with the mob? Kidding of course, but I call a fair game and a foul in the first is a foul in the 4th, why wouldn't it be? M

What does asking you to explain what you mean have to do with getting into a fight? I hear this all the time and it is the most ambiguous point anyone can make, because fouls are subjective as the rules state they are to be judged. When the rules say a foul is only when a player's "normal movement" is affected, then that is going to be subjective.

Peace