Rutgers fires basketball coach after release of video showing player abuse, gay slurs

[VaTerp]

Originally Posted by JetMetFan

Here's where pedigree takes over. Knight had three national titles and an Olympic gold medal when he got canned. Rice hasn't gotten out of the first round of the NCAA or NIT. Rice's best chance would be as someone's assistant for a while. It would be hard for even a D-2 or D-3 program to hire him as its head coach.

Bingo!

While this thread has certainly taken an interesting turn I think many people are missing this point.

We can go back and forth all year giving our opinions on Knight's behavior vs Rice's, on what Knight's practice tapes would have shown had there been more cameras in his era, etc. Most of that is conjecture.

The facts are that by the time an actual tape of Knight's misconduct in practice got out there he ALREADY had 3 national titles, a gold medal, 30 years of experience, and numerous former players who would go to bat for him. Mike Rice has NOWHERE close to that resume. NOWHERE CLOSE! AND the tape of his actions is much longer and much worse than any actual tape of Knights in terms of abuse toward players.

So this all started when I said I don't see how any school could hire Rice any time soon. And someone disagreed citing Bob Knight. For the purposes of that convo, I think that's an entirely misguided comparison.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by VaTerp

Bingo!

While this thread has certainly taken an interesting turn I think many people are missing this point.

We can go back and forth all year giving our opinions on Knight's behavior vs Rice's, on what Knight's practice tapes would have shown had there been more cameras in his era, etc. Most of that is conjecture.

The facts are that by the time an actual tape of Knight's misconduct in practice got out there he ALREADY had 3 national titles, a gold medal, 30 years of experience, and numerous former players who would go to bat for him. Mike Rice has NOWHERE close to that resume. NOWHERE CLOSE! AND the tape of his actions is much longer and much worse than any actual tape of Knights in terms of abuse toward players.

So this all started when I said I don't see how any school could hire Rice any time soon. And someone disagreed citing Bob Knight. For the purposes of that convo, I think that's an entirely misguided comparison.

And before and after that incident in practice, Knight had people attend his practices. And there was dispute over what happened on the tape. Even players that were gone did not take up for the kid Knight was accused of assaulting. This tape of Rice is continuous, several actions of throwing the ball at players and grabbing players. That is why I cannot equate this situation to really anyone but Rice and his opportunity to get another job.

Peace