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JRutledge Thu Apr 04, 2013 06:22pm
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Originally Posted by Adam (Post 889186)
And coach K, too. I've heard that about Wooden, too, and to me, it speaks poorly of his overall character. How you treat those who society feels it's ok to marginalize is a mark of character. Wooden was a great coach, teacher, and mentor, but he had his flaws. This was one, IMO. But it goes more to the feeling that coaches need to somehow "work" the refs to be effective.

Knight was different in that he seemed to be unable to control his disdain for people. Didn't he throw a flower pot at a secretary once?
People claimed a lot of things of Knight so I would not be surprised if people believe something like that happened.

I just know we had an official that recently died in my area that worked a Final Four and a Rose Bowl. I guess he had Wooden and UCLA a few times and he would tell that story often about the behavior of Wooden. So at least that part I heard from someone that dealt with Wooden directly and I heard that from others that were not the official I just mentioned.

Peace

26 Year Gap Thu Apr 04, 2013 06:55pm
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Originally Posted by gojeremy (Post 889038)
I wonder if there is a forum where Knight and Rice are bickering back and forth about the official who has the worst behavior the way you guys are arguing about them right now. Ridiculous.
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Originally Posted by zebraman (Post 889040)
Nice contribution. :rolleyes:
Or a fanboy forum where both coaches and officials are cannon fodder?

WhistlesAndStripes Thu Apr 04, 2013 08:54pm
Interesting how if you go to the 2:10 point of the video, you see him fire a ball at a player, and some guy standing right beside him hands him another one. Was that this guy's job? Just wondering.

Camron Rust Thu Apr 04, 2013 09:16pm
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Originally Posted by JRutledge (Post 889153)
Then why have the other two examples never worked in college pretty much since there incidents? What Rice did is by far worse.

Peace
Two examples is hardly enough to establish a pattern of causality. Maybe they had other options that were more compelling.

JRutledge Thu Apr 04, 2013 09:24pm
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Originally Posted by Camron Rust (Post 889233)
Two examples is hardly enough to establish a pattern of causality. Maybe they had other options that were more compelling.
Usually when a job comes up people start throwing around names. I have never heard their names thrown around. And I cannot imagine that they could not get paid more money as a head coach at the D1 level than an assistant on a pro staff. Not many NBA Staff members make a million dollars and their job is more unstable.

Peace

Brad Thu Apr 04, 2013 10:53pm
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Originally Posted by Judtech (Post 889164)
Didn't grab him by the throat. Put his hand on his chest and moved him backwards. Watch the video tape again.
I don't think that will help ... might be the worst video on YouTube ... looks like I'm watching on an old Sylvania TV/VCR combo I bought at a garage sale.

Brad Thu Apr 04, 2013 11:12pm
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Originally Posted by icallfouls (Post 889191)
Leads me to believe that this was a systematic teaching approach by the coaching staff
Probably more a case of emulating what your boss does because you think it is right / you want to impress.

Brad Thu Apr 04, 2013 11:13pm
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Originally Posted by Whistles & Stripes (Post 889227)
Interesting how if you go to the 2:10 point of the video, you see him fire a ball at a player, and some guy standing right beside him hands him another one. Was that this guy's job? Just wondering.
Well, if you are in charge of handing him the balls, you rarely get them thrown at you! :)

Adam Thu Apr 04, 2013 11:21pm
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Originally Posted by Brad (Post 889248)
Well, if you are in charge of handing him the balls, you rarely get them thrown at you! :)
Self-preservation baby.

BillyMac Fri Apr 05, 2013 06:24am
One Round Magazine ...
 
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Originally Posted by Whistles & Stripes (Post 889227)
Interesting how if you go to the 2:10 point of the video, you see him fire a ball at a player, and some guy standing right beside him hands him another one. Was that this guy's job?
Somebody has to be in charge of reloading.

Bad Zebra Fri Apr 05, 2013 11:10am
Low capacity mag
 
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Originally Posted by BillyMac (Post 889290)
Somebody has to be in charge of reloading.
Still legal in CT...barely.

OKREF Fri Apr 05, 2013 01:31pm
The Athletic Director has resigned. The President upon seeing the video for the first time three days ago said he thought Rice had to be fired immediately. Interesting thought I heard on espn, they said that when the AD first saw the video that it wasn't edited up all the bad things we see weren't one after the other, all we see on the video is the bad acts piled on top of each other is all we see.

26 Year Gap Fri Apr 05, 2013 04:36pm
Wouldn't be surprised to see the president resign as well. The AD is more or less blaming legal counsel on the way out. Who cares if the tape was edited to show only the relevant parts? Chances are that a lot of bad stuff never appeared on video.

OKREF Fri Apr 05, 2013 10:02pm
The Rutgers University General Counsel has also resigned. This was the guy who told Pernetti that they couldn't fire Rice because he hadn't violated school policies.

Adam Fri Apr 05, 2013 10:12pm
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Originally Posted by OKREF (Post 889414)
The Rutgers University General Counsel has also resigned. This was the guy who told Pernetti that they couldn't fire Rice because he hadn't violated school policies.
President said he was told they didn't have "cause," so he just fired him without it. I'm guessing that means his contract will be paid out as written


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