Trouble Bruin in the Pac-12 - & it Ain't UCLA!

[zebraman]

Perception is reality. I think twocentsworth is dead-on when he ties everything together. That is how a lot of the public will see it and how ESPN will portray it. Ed Rush has backed himself into a corner.

It was a dumb comment. In this day and age, dumb comments don't die. This is going to be fun to watch.

On a related note, this wouldn't have happened if officials (at all levels, not just the NCAA) would learn to penalize inappropriate bench conduct.

"I didn't see it..." "my partner was closer..." "It didn't fit the game...." "It wouldn't have made the game better..." "The coach was on the other end of the floor when he was berating us...." "I've seen worse..." "He didn't say any swear words..." "I prefer to manage the situation instead of giving a T...."

All excuses to not have the guts to take care of business.

[Judtech]

Originally Posted by zebraman

Perception is reality. I think twocentsworth is dead-on when he ties everything together. That is how a lot of the public will see it and how ESPN will portray it. Ed Rush has backed himself into a corner.

It was a dumb comment. In this day and age, dumb comments don't die. This is going to be fun to watch.

On a related note, this wouldn't have happened if officials (at all levels, not just the NCAA) would learn to penalize inappropriate bench conduct.

"I didn't see it..." "my partner was closer..." "It didn't fit the game...." "It wouldn't have made the game better..." "The coach was on the other end of the floor when he was berating us...." "I've seen worse..." "He didn't say any swear words..." "I prefer to manage the situation instead of giving a T...."

All excuses to not have the guts to take care of business.

Or my favorite: Man, that coach is getting on my nerves. Someone should T him.

[JRutledge]

Let us not go on about what the public thinks. Many of the public felt the NFL had no right to penalize the Saints for their actions either. I put little stock in what the public thinks on an issue where they never have direct knowledge of how a profession works.

Peace

[johnnyg08]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

Let us not go on about what the public thinks. Many of the public felt the NFL had no right to penalize the Saints for their actions either. I put little stock in what the public thinks on an issue where they never have direct knowledge of how a profession works.

Peace

agree with this 100%

[maroonx]

No problem with what Ed Rush said. Now did the official who called the T get the money or trip? I would take the money. I hope he did. Its no difference than other officials at the half talking about certain plays and to watch out for certain players who may be too aggressive etc. So they just T Sean Miller when it was appropriate. Much to do about nothing.

[Bad Zebra]

Originally Posted by maroonx

No problem with what Ed Rush said. Now did the official who called the T get the money or trip? I would take the money. I hope he did. Its no difference than other officials at the half talking about certain plays and to watch out for certain players who may be too aggressive etc. So they just T Sean Miller when it was appropriate. Much to do about nothing.

Interesting. I completely disagree with every statement in this post. Are you actually an official? Or did you just post this nonsense to see the reaction?

[MD Longhorn]

Originally Posted by Bad Zebra

did you just post this nonsense to see the reaction?

Originally Posted by zebraman

You are kidding right?

If you don't think the comments are serious, let them lie. If someone's intent was just to get a reaction, and they don't get one, they will go away. If that was not their intent, and they see no one responding to them, perhaps they will be less nonsensical in the future.

One can hope, at least.

[zebraman]

Originally Posted by maroonx

No problem with what Ed Rush said. Now did the official who called the T get the money or trip? I would take the money. I hope he did. Its no difference than other officials at the half talking about certain plays and to watch out for certain players who may be too aggressive etc. So they just T Sean Miller when it was appropriate. Much to do about nothing.

You are kidding right?

There is a big difference between saying, "this coach has done things that should have been T'd up this season" and "the first guy to T him gets a trip to Hawaii." C'mon man!

[Judtech]

Originally Posted by zebraman

You are kidding right?

There is a big difference between saying, "this coach has done things that should have been T'd up this season" and "the first guy to T him gets a trip to Hawaii." C'mon man!

I agree Hawaii is over the top. Cancun would be more reasonable. Ha

[OKREF]

Originally Posted by maroonx

No problem with what Ed Rush said. Now did the official who called the T get the money or trip? I would take the money. I hope he did. Its no difference than other officials at the half talking about certain plays and to watch out for certain players who may be too aggressive etc. So they just T Sean Miller when it was appropriate. Much to do about nothing.

Most absurd thing I have read on this board.

[mutantducky]

I'd be shocked if Rush is back in the pac-12 next year despite this support
Larry Scott, Pac-12 commissioner, backs Ed Rush regarding controversy with Sean Miller - ESPN


I hate douche-bag coaches, owners, etc but come on people there is absolutely no way that this guy should be the pac-12 coordinator of officials. He's had his time, move on.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by OKREF

Most absurd thing I have read on this board.

Not even close to the most absurd thing I've read on the board.

[icallfouls]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

Let us not go on about what the public thinks. Many of the public felt the NFL had no right to penalize the Saints for their actions either. I put little stock in what the public thinks on an issue where they never have direct knowledge of how a profession works.

Peace

Unfortunately, public perception IS what matters. If the public is aware of this, and it is being discussed nationally, it hurts the credibility of not only PAC 12 officials, but officials in general. The correlation is similar to the Donaughy betting scandal. The NBA sought to distance itself as far as possible from it. If the public believes that officials are being directed to target individuals that is their reality. If they think officials are affecting the games, they will stop going.

Rush planted a seed that Miller should get a TF. The reward was probably the only thing that might have been a joke. In the end, Miller got a TF, he predisposed the officials (put a hair trigger on the game) about a specific individual.

Of course had this information not been "leaked" we would not even know about it.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by icallfouls

Unfortunately, public perception IS what matters. If the public is aware of this, and it is being discussed nationally, it hurts the credibility of not only PAC 12 officials, but officials in general. The correlation is similar to the Donaughy betting scandal. The NBA sought to distance itself as far as possible from it. If the public believes that officials are being directed to target individuals that is their reality. If they think officials are affecting the games, they will stop going.

Rush planted a seed that Miller should get a TF. The reward was probably the only thing that might have been a joke. In the end, Miller got a TF, he predisposed the officials (put a hair trigger on the game) about a specific individual.

Of course had this information not been "leaked" we would not even know about it.

It matters to a point. It is not the end all be all of anything.

So you have never been told by anyone that a specific behavior is to be penalized? Better yet you have never heard a coach or specific situation described as something that needs to be addressed?

You never in a pre-game talked about the antics of the coaches or a specific coach as it relates to the game in question?

Peace

[grunewar]

Originally Posted by zebraman

This is going to be fun to watch.

I will use the term "interesting," vice "fun" for how I will watch in unfold. I will take no pleasure in it, regardless of how it turns out. Makes me answer more questions at work......hey, what do you think of.........