Louisville/Baylor (Women)

[OKREF]

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef

Not reading the article. But Griner was popped in the face on one play and no foul was called and another time (or maybe in the same sequence) a Louisville player was swinger her arms wildly (air punches) in the direction of Griner.

If I remember right, that was after Griner, threw an elbow. I think.

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by OKREF

If I remember right, that was after Griner, threw an elbow. I think.

Quite possible. A lot of stuff went on that didn't get addressed.

[Judtech]

Like theLouisville player squaring up and taunting her ?

[OKREF]

Originally Posted by Judtech

Like theLouisville player squaring up and taunting her ?

Just like Griner, and Simms do all the time. Lets face it. Baylor got a dose of their own medicine and for whatever reason it was allowed to happen. Is that taunting given a T every time it happens, I would bet on no.

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by OKREF

Just like Griner, and Simms do all the time. Lets face it. Baylor got a dose of their own medicine and for whatever reason it was allowed to happen. Is that taunting given a T every time it happens, I would bet on no.

I know on the Men's side in the college conferences I work there is just about a ZERO tolerance for taunting. I can't speak for the Women's side.

[Judtech]

Originally Posted by OKREF

Just like Griner, and Simms do all the time. Lets face it. Baylor got a dose of their own medicine and for whatever reason it was allowed to happen. Is that taunting given a T every time it happens, I would bet on no.

They don't square up on other players like the Louisville player did. They get all excited and say what they are going to say as they walk away. What happened the other day was an obvious T.
IMO, this is what happens when you treat a tournament game differently then a regular season game. 'Its the Sweet 16, lets cut them some slack' seemed to be the motto. Could be wrong, but its what it appeared to me.

[JetMetFan]

Originally Posted by OKREF

Just like Griner, and Simms do all the time. Lets face it. Baylor got a dose of their own medicine and for whatever reason it was allowed to happen. Is that taunting given a T every time it happens, I would bet on no.

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef

I know on the Men's side in the college conferences I work there is just about a ZERO tolerance for taunting. I can't speak for the Women's side.

So I'll speak for the women's side...we may not get everything (no one does) but we'll get it more often than some might think. Reason? Women react differently to it than men and I've had female players - former and current - and assignors tell me the same thing. Guys get into each other's faces, talk for a little then it's over. Women hold a grudge. You never know when the retaliation is coming, but it is.

Back to the Schimmel/Griner situation: Among the notes NCAAW received from Debbie Williamson this season was one concerning sportsmanship, complete with video. It sits on Arbiter for all of us to see. That's why I was surprised Schimmel didn't catch a T for yapping at Griner after the +1.

I've also gone back and watched the first half of the game but this time with the sound up. At the second media time out (11:19 1st) the analyst said the alternate called the entire crew over to talk about what was happening on the court and heading into the time out there was yapping between four players (two each side) as they went to their benches. Alternates do a number of things during a game but I don't recall them ever calling a huddle in a non-review situation. I'd bet any amount of $ a call came down from on high to get things cleaned up.

[VaTerp]

Interesting blog post that correctly eludes to the rules related to coaches discussing the officiating in press conferences:

Kim Mulkey: Losing a game, losing your dignity | Berry Tramel's Blog

[#olderthanilook]

Interesting:

"Mulkey asked media to query her about the officiating, then ripped the officials for a variety of calls and the overall tone of the game. “The game started out way too physical,” Mulkey said. “I thought all three of (the officials), if they go past this round of officiating, it’ll be sad for the game.”

You want to know why leagues and organizations and conferences discipline coaches and players who criticize officiating? That’s why, right there. Because they will lose their minds and question the integrity of the game. Which is why Mulkey should be in line for a hefty fine."

[OKREF]

Originally Posted by VaTerp

Interesting blog post that correctly eludes to the rules related to coaches discussing the officiating in press conferences:

Kim Mulkey: Losing a game, losing your dignity | Berry Tramel's Blog

I listen to him on the radio every day on my drive home from work. He said yesterday that this was the worst display of sportsmanship he has ever seen from a coach after a game.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by OKREF

I listen to him on the radio every day on my drive home from work. He said yesterday that this was the worst display of sportsmanship he has ever seen from a coach after a game.

Off the top of my head, I can't think of anything worse at the college level.

[Maineac]

She told the media to ask her questions about officiating knowing she'd catch a hefty fine for doing so. I hope she's not disappointed. I thought the blog post was right on.

[Raymond]

I've seen coaches say a lot worse and be a lot less specific about their complaints. Mulkey should have been T'd for sure. But in her post game conference she didn't rattle off bunch of abstract generalizations. Except for initially not thinking her team committed a foul at 2 seconds she said things about the game that a lot of us have already agreed with. And even with the last foul she asked reporters if she was wrong about it not being a foul and the next reporter said it was most definitely foul.

Mulkey will be dealt with. I'm more concerned about some of the stuff that went on in that game that the officiating crew didn't address, including Mulkey's strip tease.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef

I've seen coaches say a lot worse and be a lot less specific about their complaints. Mulkey should have been T'd for sure. But in her post game conference she didn't rattle off bunch of abstract generalizations. Except for initially not thinking her team committed a foul at 2 seconds she said things about the game that a lot of us have already agreed with. And even with the last foul she asked reporters if she was wrong about it not being a foul and the next reporter said it was most definitely foul.

Mulkey will be dealt with. I'm more concerned about some of the stuff that went on in that game that the officiating crew didn't address, including Mulkey's strip tease.

Her comment about the prospect of any of those three officials moving on was, to me, the culmination of her tantrum.

[Judtech]

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef

I've seen coaches say a lot worse and be a lot less specific about their complaints. Mulkey should have been T'd for sure. But in her post game conference she didn't rattle off bunch of abstract generalizations. Except for initially not thinking her team committed a foul at 2 seconds she said things about the game that a lot of us have already agreed with. And even with the last foul she asked reporters if she was wrong about it not being a foul and the next reporter said it was most definitely foul.

Mulkey will be dealt with. I'm more concerned about some of the stuff that went on in that game that the officiating crew didn't address, including Mulkey's strip tease.

In retrospect does the strip tease act really surprise anyone. Have you seen some of those outfits isn't there a country western song about being a size 10 trying to fit into a size 8? If not, there should be. She's dating a C/W singer.