Marquette-Miami clip

[Bad Zebra]

Wow. That's a big mistake of a pretty basic rule. No team or player control after the shot.

Does an official get dinged for an error like that? Has anyone noticed whether guys have been moving on when something like this occurs?

[VaTerp]

I was at this game and it was interesting watching everything as it happened just before a media timeout.

The C ran over to the calling official very quickly and they had a quick convo, whatever info the C brought was not enough for him to change the call, though it was obviously kicked.

The entire Miami coaching staff was waiting for an explanation, which was given, then Larranaga walked off in disgust.

[Drizzle]

Originally Posted by VaTerp

I was at this game and it was interesting watching everything as it happened just before a media timeout.

The C ran over to the calling official very quickly and they had a quick convo, whatever info the C brought was not enough for him to change the call, though it was obviously kicked.

The entire Miami coaching staff was waiting for an explanation, which was given, then Larranaga walked off in disgust.

That's what I saw on TV too, I was sure the C would've said something like "Hey, I didn't have any team control on that, are you sure?" and they would've fixed it. It's hard for me to imagine any reason why the call stood.

[JRutledge]

Thee is a case to be made that there was possession of the Miami player near half court. The problem is the angle does not help illustrate that fact. It looks like a miss but you cannot see if and when he might have had possession of the ball which is what would hinge on how good or bad this call was.

Peace

[Bad Zebra]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

Thee is a case to be made that there was possession of the Miami player near half court...

I don't see how that's possible even with the bad camera angle. The ball NEVER stopped moving at any point which would indicate posession before it's picked up in back court.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by Bad Zebra

I don't see how that's possible even with the bad camera angle. The ball NEVER stopped moving at any point which would indicate posession before it's picked up in back court.

Not sure you can say the ball never stopped moving and that would not be the standard anyway. If the player had both hands on the ball, it could have been secured, for just a moment. I am just saying the calling official had a much better angle. I know if I was the official on the camera side I would not have ruled possession. But from the calling official's angle, maybe. I also do not think it is likely there was possession, just saying it was possible or I cannot rule it out in this case.

Peace

[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

Not sure you can say the ball never stopped moving and that would not be the standard anyway. If the player had both hands on the ball, it could have been secured, for just a moment. I am just saying the calling official had a much better angle. I know if I was the official on the camera side I would not have ruled possession. But from the calling official's angle, maybe. I also do not think it is likely there was possession, just saying it was possible or I cannot rule it out in this case.

Peace

So, you're saying the player could have gathered the ball there...that quickly? That doesn't seem like your normal view. Doesn't the player have to have it in their hands for some amount of time before you consider them to be holding the ball?

[canuckrefguy]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

Thee is a case to be made that there was possession of the Miami player near half court. The problem is the angle does not help illustrate that fact. It looks like a miss but you cannot see if and when he might have had possession of the ball which is what would hinge on how good or bad this call was.

+1

It all depends on whether #4 got control or not. It sure doesn't look like it, but without being able to see his hands, we have no idea.

I will say that the Trail who makes the call has a clear view of #4.