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JRutledge Thu Mar 28, 2013 10:25pm

Video Request: Syracuse v. Indiana
 
About 13:50 in the second half. A drive to the basket by a Cuse player and the announcers think it is a travel. Can this get clipped up for our purposes please?

Peace

just another ref Thu Mar 28, 2013 10:35pm

They're very right.

JRutledge Thu Mar 28, 2013 10:50pm

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Originally Posted by just another ref (Post 887418)
They're very right.

Why?

Peace

just another ref Thu Mar 28, 2013 10:53pm

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Originally Posted by JRutledge (Post 887420)
Why?

Peace

Because it was an obvious travel. His pivot foot was almost at the top of the key and he shot a layup.

4-40 Thu Mar 28, 2013 10:53pm

How about 3:40 of the second half? Indiana in transition before the pull-up three point shot. In my opinion, this one is much more obvious than the previous one in this thread.

JRutledge Thu Mar 28, 2013 10:56pm

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Originally Posted by just another ref (Post 887422)
Because it was an obvious travel. His pivot foot was almost at the top of the key and he shot a layup.

I beg to differ and I felt that you were going to say for some other reason. But he stepped with his pivot foot and stepped with the other foot and went up. The only reason I might suggest it was a travel is him might have dragged the pivot foot on the ground during the step with the non-pivot foot, but not for any other reason. If the foot was off the floor, that is just a basketball play. Nothing unusual, but that is why I want to see it again. I went back on the DVR and was fine with the play. When they made such a big deal out of it, I thought there had to be something else he did.

Peace

#olderthanilook Thu Mar 28, 2013 10:57pm

It was traveling because "he took three steps", said raftery, lol.

just another ref Thu Mar 28, 2013 10:59pm

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Originally Posted by #olderthanilook (Post 887426)
It was traveling because "he took three steps", said raftery, lol.

Raftery was right, if you want to describe it that way. Caught the ball, right, left, right.


TRAVEL

JRutledge Thu Mar 28, 2013 11:00pm

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Originally Posted by just another ref (Post 887428)
Raftery was right, if you want to describe it that way. Caught the ball, right, left, right.


TRAVEL

He dribbled, he did not catch the ball.

Peace

just another ref Thu Mar 28, 2013 11:01pm

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Originally Posted by JRutledge (Post 887429)
He dribbled, he did not catch the ball.

Peace

That's what happens at the end of the dribble, you catch the ball.

4-40 Thu Mar 28, 2013 11:02pm

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Originally Posted by JRutledge (Post 887429)
He dribbled, he did not catch the ball.

Peace

I agree that it would be extremely difficult in real time to determine that he possessed the ball with his right foot on the ground at the beginning of the drive.

JRutledge Thu Mar 28, 2013 11:04pm

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Originally Posted by 4-40 (Post 887431)
I agree that it would be extremely difficult in real time to determine that he possessed the ball with his right foot on the ground at the beginning of the drive.

I would love to see it again, because it did not look obvious or a travel to me when I DVR'd it in slow motion. It looked like nothing to me. Then again I was not hearing why they felt it was a travel. And I am still not understanding why JAR feels it was "obvious."

Peace

just another ref Thu Mar 28, 2013 11:06pm

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Originally Posted by JRutledge (Post 887432)
I would love to see it again, because it did not look obvious or a travel to me when I DVR'd it in slow motion. It looked like nothing to me. Then again I was not hearing why they felt it was a travel. And I am still not understanding why JAR feels it was "obvious."

Peace

Even in slow motion, you thought the left foot was the pivot?

JRutledge Thu Mar 28, 2013 11:09pm

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Originally Posted by just another ref (Post 887433)
Even in slow motion, you thought the left foot was the pivot?

I did not make a claim of which foot was the pivot foot. I simply said that when he stopped the dribble the foot I identified as the pivot foot never came back to the floor after he stepped with the other foot. Again, let us see it again and then we can debate which one was the pivot foot for sure. I am going off of memory and what I determined slowed down. I was looking for something off the charts and I did not see anything like that when I reviewed the play.

Peace

just another ref Thu Mar 28, 2013 11:14pm

He had the ball firmly in two hands with the right foot on the floor in the circle above the free throw line. The left foot landed, then the right landed again. He jumped off the right foot for the shot.


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