Uniforms in a State Championship Game

[just another ref]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

So what if the coach brings it to your attention? Is that any different than someone that is overseeing the officials?

Peace

Totally different. ANYONE bringing something to the attention of the officials is not the same as telling them to call (or not call) something. So which one happened here? Did the guy merely bring it to their attention or did he instruct them to make the technical call?

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by just another ref

Totally different. ANYONE bringing something to the attention of the officials is not the same as telling them to call (or not call) something. So which one happened here? Did the guy merely bring it to their attention or did he instruct them to make the technical call?

I think you would have to talk to the parties involved to know for sure. I am asking is that situation any different? I am not saying it is the same thing, but if it is brought to your attention and it is clearly a violation of the rules, then why does it matter? I know this is partly philosophical, just asking should it matter how they noticed a rule was violated?

Peace

[just another ref]

First, it's hard to believe that the officials had not noticed the jersey color on their own. If that hadn't, no matter who points it out:

"Hey, doesn't the home team have to wear white?"

"By golly, you're right. My bad." TWEET T

I have no problem with this sequence of events. (I have a problem if they really hadn't noticed)

BUT, if they had noticed and had no intention of making the call because their state never does, because it had previously not been enforced in the tournament, or whatever reason, I have a problem with the boss stepping in and insisting on the call.

[JRutledge]

I could see it being missed if no one ever made a big deal about this in a particular area. I know in my state they made a big deal of uniform issues so officials were always on edge if we did not see something. In this area it is possible the attitude was totally opposite and no one ever made a big deal out of this, especially in tournament situations which does not often classify clearly who the home team is going to be. I guess I can live with either way and certainly could live with it in that situation. I certainly would not tell the administrator to pound sand.

Peace

[ref3808]

Would anyone on this board, were they serving in a supervisory capacity "over" other officials ever do what that gentlemen did? That is - walk onto the court in full view of everyone in the gym and tell the officials what rules to enforce and then come onto the court a second time to get involved in a floor discussion with one or both coaches.

[JetMetFan]

Originally Posted by ref3808

Would anyone on this board, were they serving in a supervisory capacity "over" other officials ever do what that gentlemen did? That is - walk onto the court in full view of everyone in the gym and tell the officials what rules to enforce and then come onto the court a second time to get involved in a floor discussion with one or both coaches.

If I felt I had to do something I would do it at halftime. If the tournament officials had been told beforehand to address it and didn't then I'd be annoyed with them in the locker room but not to the point that I'd basically call them out in public.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by JetMetFan

If I felt I had to do something I would do it at halftime. If the tournament officials had been told beforehand to address it and didn't then I'd be annoyed with them in the locker room but not to the point that I'd basically call them out in public.

Agreed, but they probably owed it to the coaches to come and explain after they instructed the officials to make the call. If I was an official on the court, I would expect as much.

[bainsey]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

I certainly would not tell the administrator to pound sand.

Exactly. Whether we're doing our day jobs or officiating, we all have bosses. If the boss says you do something -- immoral orders notwithstanding -- you do it.

However, I have to believe part of the delay is the referee of this crew asking the admin, "you want us to call this NOW?" If the ASAA let it go for this long into the season, it would certainly be a legitimate question.

I'm giving props to the PA announcer, though, for a thorough explanation of the technical foul. Most places I know are so stringent on their announcers, that they would allow no announcement of the T, or simply, "technical foul, (name of team), team's second of the half." Fans have a right to know why a T is called, especially on the state's biggest stage.