Uniforms in a State Championship Game

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by rsox34

Players do not have to stand at "half court!" They just have to be above the foul line extended!

... and behind the three point arc.

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by Whistles & Stripes

Agreed on both points here. I would have been likely to tell the administrator that I wasn't going to enforce it at this point and if he wanted it enforced, he could go and get his stripes on and finish the game for me.

Right call, WRONG TIME!!

Only if you were on your farewell tour.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef

Only if you were on your farewell tour.

And I do not believe he would do it then. Because he likely would not work the rest of the game or his career would be marred by that incident. Bravado is all that is.

Peace

[WhistlesAndStripes]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

And I do not believe he would do it then. Because he likely would not work the rest of the game or his career would be marred by that incident. Bravado is all that is.

Peace

Hey Rut, come back and tell us when you work your first state tournament.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by Whistles & Stripes

Hey Rut, come back and tell us when you work your first state tournament.

I have already worked 3.

Peace

[WhistlesAndStripes]

Originally Posted by Whistles & Stripes

Hey Rut, come back and tell us when you work your first state tournament.

Originally Posted by JRutledge

I have already worked 3.

Peace

In basketball.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by Whistles & Stripes

In basketball.

You said State Tournament (which is not what we call it but OK). If that is the case I have worked 10 years of those.

And when I do in basketball, I would have done something only 3 others have done in this part of the state in the history of the IHSA. So I will be good either way.

And with all that being said, I do not believe you would tell anyone what you suggest. I just do not buy it. The officials in my area did not do that when they were given the same option.

Peace

[just another ref]

Not gonna say what I would or wouldn't do but I will say this. The officials boss, whoever he is, should never be stepping in during the game, any game, and saying, "Hey guys, call this," no matter how blatant the mistake, real or imagined, may be.

jmo

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by just another ref

Not gonna say what I would or wouldn't do but I will say this. The officials boss, whoever he is, should never be stepping in during the game, any game, and saying, "Hey guys, call this," no matter how blatant the mistake, real or imagined, may be.

jmo

So what if the coach brings it to your attention? Is that any different than someone that is overseeing the officials?

Peace

[just another ref]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

So what if the coach brings it to your attention? Is that any different than someone that is overseeing the officials?

Peace

Totally different. ANYONE bringing something to the attention of the officials is not the same as telling them to call (or not call) something. So which one happened here? Did the guy merely bring it to their attention or did he instruct them to make the technical call?

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by just another ref

Totally different. ANYONE bringing something to the attention of the officials is not the same as telling them to call (or not call) something. So which one happened here? Did the guy merely bring it to their attention or did he instruct them to make the technical call?

I think you would have to talk to the parties involved to know for sure. I am asking is that situation any different? I am not saying it is the same thing, but if it is brought to your attention and it is clearly a violation of the rules, then why does it matter? I know this is partly philosophical, just asking should it matter how they noticed a rule was violated?

Peace

[just another ref]

First, it's hard to believe that the officials had not noticed the jersey color on their own. If that hadn't, no matter who points it out:

"Hey, doesn't the home team have to wear white?"

"By golly, you're right. My bad." TWEET T

I have no problem with this sequence of events. (I have a problem if they really hadn't noticed)

BUT, if they had noticed and had no intention of making the call because their state never does, because it had previously not been enforced in the tournament, or whatever reason, I have a problem with the boss stepping in and insisting on the call.

[JRutledge]

I could see it being missed if no one ever made a big deal about this in a particular area. I know in my state they made a big deal of uniform issues so officials were always on edge if we did not see something. In this area it is possible the attitude was totally opposite and no one ever made a big deal out of this, especially in tournament situations which does not often classify clearly who the home team is going to be. I guess I can live with either way and certainly could live with it in that situation. I certainly would not tell the administrator to pound sand.

Peace

[APG]

Originally Posted by Whistles & Stripes

Agreed on both points here. I would have been likely to tell the administrator that I wasn't going to enforce it at this point and if he wanted it enforced, he could go and get his stripes on and finish the game for me.

Right call, WRONG TIME!!

Feel like this reaction/response is taking a situation to MACH 1 for no good reason...and a stand that would be ultimately pointless if one your partner(s) called the T himself.

[zebraman]

Originally Posted by just another ref

Not gonna say what I would or wouldn't do but I will say this. The officials boss, whoever he is, should never be stepping in during the game, any game, and saying, "Hey guys, call this," no matter how blatant the mistake, real or imagined, may be.

jmo

One year at our state tournament, the director of officials told us at the officials dinner (on the night before the tournament) that we did not have to worry about uniform or equipment rules.... they would take care of it all and instruct us to call a T if necessary. Man, that was nice to not have to be the uniform police. We didn't mind one bit.