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Old Thu Mar 28, 2013, 09:33pm
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Hey Rut, come back and tell us when you work your first state tournament.
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I have already worked 3.

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Old Thu Mar 28, 2013, 09:35pm
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In basketball.
You said State Tournament (which is not what we call it but OK). If that is the case I have worked 10 years of those.

And when I do in basketball, I would have done something only 3 others have done in this part of the state in the history of the IHSA. So I will be good either way.

And with all that being said, I do not believe you would tell anyone what you suggest. I just do not buy it. The officials in my area did not do that when they were given the same option.

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Old Thu Mar 28, 2013, 09:50pm
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Not gonna say what I would or wouldn't do but I will say this. The officials boss, whoever he is, should never be stepping in during the game, any game, and saying, "Hey guys, call this," no matter how blatant the mistake, real or imagined, may be.

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Old Thu Mar 28, 2013, 10:09pm
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Not gonna say what I would or wouldn't do but I will say this. The officials boss, whoever he is, should never be stepping in during the game, any game, and saying, "Hey guys, call this," no matter how blatant the mistake, real or imagined, may be.

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So what if the coach brings it to your attention? Is that any different than someone that is overseeing the officials?

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Old Thu Mar 28, 2013, 10:12pm
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So what if the coach brings it to your attention? Is that any different than someone that is overseeing the officials?

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Totally different. ANYONE bringing something to the attention of the officials is not the same as telling them to call (or not call) something. So which one happened here? Did the guy merely bring it to their attention or did he instruct them to make the technical call?
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Old Thu Mar 28, 2013, 10:19pm
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Totally different. ANYONE bringing something to the attention of the officials is not the same as telling them to call (or not call) something. So which one happened here? Did the guy merely bring it to their attention or did he instruct them to make the technical call?
I think you would have to talk to the parties involved to know for sure. I am asking is that situation any different? I am not saying it is the same thing, but if it is brought to your attention and it is clearly a violation of the rules, then why does it matter? I know this is partly philosophical, just asking should it matter how they noticed a rule was violated?

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Old Thu Mar 28, 2013, 10:34pm
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First, it's hard to believe that the officials had not noticed the jersey color on their own. If that hadn't, no matter who points it out:

"Hey, doesn't the home team have to wear white?"

"By golly, you're right. My bad." TWEET T

I have no problem with this sequence of events. (I have a problem if they really hadn't noticed)

BUT, if they had noticed and had no intention of making the call because their state never does, because it had previously not been enforced in the tournament, or whatever reason, I have a problem with the boss stepping in and insisting on the call.
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Old Thu Mar 28, 2013, 10:54pm
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Not gonna say what I would or wouldn't do but I will say this. The officials boss, whoever he is, should never be stepping in during the game, any game, and saying, "Hey guys, call this," no matter how blatant the mistake, real or imagined, may be.

jmo
One year at our state tournament, the director of officials told us at the officials dinner (on the night before the tournament) that we did not have to worry about uniform or equipment rules.... they would take care of it all and instruct us to call a T if necessary. Man, that was nice to not have to be the uniform police. We didn't mind one bit.
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Old Thu Mar 28, 2013, 11:46pm
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3 pages and nobody brought up the fact the officials were not switching on fouls.
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Old Fri Mar 29, 2013, 07:36am
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3 pages and nobody brought up the fact the officials were not switching on fouls.
I didn't watch anything else on the video but the play in question.

Why would anybody want to watch a game that was 1-0 four plus minutes into the game?
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