Gonzaga / Southern video (Added)

[LeeBallanfant]

It would have been interesting to see what would have happened had Ted Valentine instead of being center had been lead and was waved off by the trail.

[just another ref]

Could someone post the NCAA rule regarding a blarge?

[icallfouls]

Originally Posted by just another ref

Could someone post the NCAA rule regarding a blarge?

It was a memo/directive. If both officials give a preliminary signal, then both calls are taken to the bench and enforced. It is a common discussion the pre-games I have been part of to make sure that both officials are slow to show, rather than banging both right away.

The other thing from the video. Both officials go with two hands up, but only one gives a preliminary. The T basically gives the L a "no-no, I got this!" two handed stop sign. They made eye contact and the L gave the call to the T or the T took it, whatever you prefer.

[just another ref]

Originally Posted by icallfouls

It was a memo/directive. If both officials give a preliminary signal, then both calls are taken to the bench and enforced.

Okay, thanks. So, like NFHS, there is nothing in the books to this effect. But, unlike NCAA, NFHS has no such memo/directive. Interesting.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by just another ref

Okay, thanks. So, like NFHS, there is nothing in the books to this effect. But, unlike NCAA, NFHS has no such memo/directive. Interesting.

The NFHS case play is clear, but you know that. You're the only one who suggests otherwise, but you know that. Let's stay on topic here.

[just another ref]

Originally Posted by Adam

The NFHS case play is clear, but you know that. You're the only one who suggests otherwise, but you know that. Let's stay on topic here.

Here's the interesting part. If I understand correctly, this NCAA memo specifies that opposing prelims=blarge. (must report both) But this starts a whole new debate. When is a signal a signal? Like in the OP. Yeah, it's pretty obvious that the lead had a block. Is the crew in trouble now for not reporting both?

[cmb]

I can't believe anyone could seriously think the L didn't give a signal. He blows his whistle and is sliding/hopping to his side while holding two fists high in the air. Let's not kid anyone here. That's enough for everyone to know he's calling a block.

Question for those trying to tell us the L didn't actually signal: in your opinion, at what point is the block signal actually made? Is it once the fists start to come down? When they actually hit the hips? Somewhere in between??

I agree with Camron. The signal was received, which means it was sent.

[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by icallfouls

It was a memo/directive. If both officials give a preliminary signal, then both calls are taken to the bench and enforced. It is a common discussion the pre-games I have been part of to make sure that both officials are slow to show, rather than banging both right away.

The other thing from the video. Both officials go with two hands up, but only one gives a preliminary. The T basically gives the L a "no-no, I got this!" two handed stop sign. They made eye contact and the L gave the call to the T or the T took it, whatever you prefer.

I hope you're joking that only one gave a prelim. Sure, the lead didn't "finish" it, but he gave enough of it for everyone to know what he had. If the signal is received, that means it was sent. He showed what he had.

And, you know there is no way he was going from that position to a charge....you do that same thing and I've never seen you go to a charge from there.

One officials two hands up were actually in the process of making a block signal. The other other officials hands were not yet showing anything. At that point, the call was a block by one and nothing by the other. The trail then still came in, told him he was wrong, then made a contradictory signal....overruling him improperly. Was the ultimate call right? Sure. But the trail trampled all over his partner on that one.