Who Is "They?"

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

Bandaids?

Note: I think that I agree with you, but I'm having a hard time figuring out what I'm agreeing to.

You made the comment that you do not ask them to take off jewelry. That should go without saying.

Peace

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

You made the comment that you do not ask them to take off jewelry.

That's 100% correct, I've made that statement many, many times on the Forum, but did I make it in this thread?

In any case, I think that we agree. Officials should not ask players to remove illegal equipment, we should tell players that they can't play with illegal equipment.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

You do not ask them to remove them in the first place, you just tell them they cannot play with them if on their body.

Peace

I get the point of this, but I don't worry about the semantics here. It seems a lot like the whole "base line / end line" discussion, or a certain long time member's obsession with whether coaches "call" or "request" timeouts. The next time a player sits out the game rather than take out his earrings will be the first time.

[Multiple Sports]

Working a softball game a few year ago...highly conteste game but the one coach was clueless. He calls time and comes out to tell me that the batter from the other team had her navel pierced. I said coach I can't see that nor am I interested in looking... he couldn't believe that I wouldn't eject player.


Was by far strangest request from a coach I ever had....

[Camron Rust]

Just consider bandaids on the ears as jewelry. Problem solved!

As far as I know, what is or is not jewelry is not defined anywhere.

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by Camron Rust

Just consider bandaids on the ears as jewelry. Problem solved!

Better yet, just consider ears to be jewelry, and make exceptions for medical, or religious reasons. Removing an ear has to be considered to be a medical problem, or there has to be some Commandment being broken?

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by Camron Rust

As far as I know, what is or is not jewelry is not defined anywhere.

The Supreme Court has already ruled on this: "I know it when I see it. (Justice Potter Stewart)

If you don't concur with him, you can always go to Noah Webster's definition.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by Adam

I get the point of this, but I don't worry about the semantics here. It seems a lot like the whole "base line / end line" discussion, or a certain long time member's obsession with whether coaches "call" or "request" timeouts. The next time a player sits out the game rather than take out his earrings will be the first time.

Usually in my experience the coach thanks us for telling his player the rule. Usually not much of an issue as I said because the rule is well known.

Peace

[BillyMac]

If a bandaid falls in the forest, and there are no officials around ...

[rekent]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

There's liability, and there's negligence. If I don't notice the bandaid, I'm probably negligent. If I notice the bandaid and don't address it, I'm negligent. If I notice the bandaid, ask the player about it, am lied to, and have the coach confirm that his players are legally equipped, I don't believe that I'm negligent, but I'm probably still going to have to deal with the bother of lawyers, courts, IAABO insurance, NFHS insurance, etc.

Disclaimer: I am not an attorney, nor do I play one on television.

Bottom line, I'm addressing the issue, but I'm not asking a player to remove a bandaid. But, as usual, when in Rome, check your local listings.

I'm in the process of becoming one, and I am not quite sure I would agree with this. However if it was, there would be massive amount of contributory negligence on the part of others that would help you.

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

There's liability, and there's negligence. If I don't notice the bandaid, I'm probably negligent. If I notice the bandaid and don't address it, I'm negligent. If I notice the bandaid, ask the player about it, am lied to, and have the coach confirm that his players are legally equipped, I don't believe that I'm negligent, but I'm probably still going to have to deal with the bother of lawyers, courts, IAABO insurance, NFHS insurance, etc.

Originally Posted by rekent

I'm in the process of becoming one, and I am not quite sure I would agree with this.

Interesting. Can you expound upon this?

If necessary, will you represent me? If so, please send the bill to Mark Padgett, he lives somewhere in Oregon. He's already got my account numbers, PIN's etc.

[Freddy]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

Disclaimer: I am not an attorney, nor do I play one on television.

Disclaimer: I am a plumber but to not officiate or enforce the rules like one.