joe forte camp

[KevinP]

Sometimes this forum becomes a wise a$$ reply forum.
Kid was just saying that he's not green, You smart a$$es if you dont have any constructive things to say, keep your pie holes shut.

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by KevinP

Sometimes this forum becomes a wise a$$ reply forum.
Kid was just saying that he's not green, You smart a$$es if you dont have any constructive things to say, keep your pie holes shut.

Then just ask "what does Joe Forte expect and like?" without all the self-promotion.

And you didn't have anything constructive to say so why are you posting? He doesn't need you coming to his rescue.

[evictor24]

The fact that your on this forum asking questions and looking to attend camp shows your hungry to learn more, develop your strengths and become a better official. Having confidence isn't going to hurt you out there, in fact, its crucial for success.

I'm sorry that you reached out to this "experienced, mature, veteran" group of officials and all most of them could do is shoot you down.

Good luck to you.

[Freddy]

Originally Posted by evictor24

The fact that your on this forum asking questions and looking to attend camp shows your hungry to learn more, develop your strengths and become a better official. Having confidence isn't going to hurt you out there, in fact, its crucial for success.

I'm sorry that you reached out to this "experienced, mature, veteran" group of officials and all most of them could do is shoot you down.

Good luck to you.

"There's a fine line between confidence and cockiness."
The young lad seemed merely confident, to me, not cocky. Heck, I could say the same thing about myself, but usually just let others say it for me.

[Multiple Sports]

I remember when I was your age and attending Fred Barakat's camps ( IMO the best in the country). I thought I had all of those things. But what Ididn't have was the following ( and I will relate this to your area). I hadn't worked the Carolinas Conference final / hadn't been to the DII Regional /.

What is going to happen when you call what you think is a foul in front of Eades or Ayres ????

There are about one million examples of things you haven't done or don't know about yet (and you will) that also make up the equation as to whether you ready to work or not in the BS.

For whatever it is worth and this is debatable, if you look like a Joe Forte guy/
NBA ref, how will it play when you try to get in other leagues that don't have such an "NBA Philosophy".....

BNR - your thoughts would be appreciated. I know down there you see the difference between MEAC / BS mentality .......

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by Multiple Sports

...BNR - your thoughts would be appreciated. I know down there you see the difference between MEAC / BS mentality .......

Most definitely is a difference. The 2 supervisors are almost diametrically opposed as to what they look for in hiring a new official on staff. Of course some officials are so good they can transcend the different tastes.

[Jay R]

Originally Posted by Multiple Sports

I remember when I was your age and attending Fred Barakat's camps ( IMO the best in the country). I thought I had all of those things. But what Ididn't have was the following ( and I will relate this to your area). I hadn't worked the Carolinas Conference final / hadn't been to the DII Regional /.

What is going to happen when you call what you think is a foul in front of Eades or Ayres ????

There are about one million examples of things you haven't done or don't know about yet (and you will) that also make up the equation as to whether you ready to work or not in the BS.

For whatever it is worth and this is debatable, if you look like a Joe Forte guy/
NBA ref, how will it play when you try to get in other leagues that don't have such an "NBA Philosophy".....

BNR - your thoughts would be appreciated. I know down there you see the difference between MEAC / BS mentality .......

I'm assuming BS means Big South? Do they actually use that acronym?

[grunewar]

Originally Posted by Freddy

"just let others say it"

This.

[billy42785]

Just an update to you guys! I went to the camp , learned and shined! Receive an invite to his Orlando camp in July aau nationals! So thanks to the good feedback I received and to the negative well you just sound like a angry what if official!!

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by billy42785

Just an update to you guys! I went to the camp , learned and shined! Receive an invite to his Orlando camp in July aau nationals! So thanks to the good feedback I received and to the negative well you just sound like a angry what if official!!

Forgive me, but maybe you should be around longer than 2 posts before you worry about what others say to you. I did not recall anyone telling you something that was out of line or not good advice. Good luck at the camp, but that does not mean anything. Many of us have been invited to stuff and it did not mean much of anything but more money out of your pocket.

Peace

[Adam]

Originally Posted by billy42785

Just an update to you guys! I went to the camp , learned and shined! Receive an invite to his Orlando camp in July aau nationals! So thanks to the good feedback I received and to the negative well you just sound like a angry what if official!!

You think that was negative?

Interesting.

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by billy42785

Just an update to you guys! I went to the camp , learned and shined! Receive an invite to his Orlando camp in July aau nationals! So thanks to the good feedback I received and to the negative well you just sound like a angry what if official!!

Some of us work in conferences that pay more than the Big South and Conference Carolinas. Some of us know officials who have chosen not to work for Joe Forte. Some of us know officials who get a lot of games from Joe Forte. Some of us have been to his camps and been picked up. Some of us have been to his camps and not picked up.

All that is irrelevant to the tone of your original post.

[Brad]

Here's my advice…

Originally Posted by billy42785

Just an update to you guys! I went to the camp , learned and shined! Receive an invite to his Orlando camp in July aau nationals! So thanks to the good feedback I received.

Stop there.

Originally Posted by billy42785

and to the negative well you just sound like a angry what if official!!

^^^^ Leave that part out.

[peachbasket]

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef

Well, Forte doesn't care about running hard, but he does care about having a great look. The #1 thing he cares about is getting plays right.

Not many college officials on this site reveal which conferences they work in, so any specific answers as they applied to working for Joe Forte probably weren't going to be very forthcoming. (I don't work for Forte)

This is an question that common sense tells you should have been asked in his local area to officials who already work in the BS and/or CC, not a bunch of anonymous folks on a message board.

BNF - He does care about running hard. I believe running hard and hustling to get an angle to see the play to make a decision (call or no call) can be the same or two different things. False hustle and running just to run don't help any of us.

Regarding the official attending Orlando. Did you go to Suwanee back in May to the Gibbons camp? If so who evaluated you and what feedback did you receive. That will help you decide what you need to work on when you attend the STP in Orlando. It will also help me help you in making recommendations. I would also recommend you inform you clinicians prior to each game the 1 or 2 things you intend to work on that game so they can take note and provide feedback

Be genuine, staff can see right through the campers that talk just to talk. Big turn off.

[mutantducky]

also be sure to correct your supervisors. They like that. Trust me


(But really I've had conflicting advice a few times. Just roll with it and learn.
And become cocky and confident. Like many of the NBA refs