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Old Sat May 07, 2005, 10:55pm
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Nothing has really been going on around here so I will start something up.

While at camp this summer, what is some of your goals? I'll start.

1) Getting full knowledge of mechanics.
2) Ways to get better angles.
3) Better Game Management.

Your turn.
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Old Sat May 07, 2005, 11:37pm
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I attend camps for two reasons.

1. Get noticed
2. Get hired.

That is it.

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Old Sun May 08, 2005, 01:52am
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Old Sun May 08, 2005, 08:33am
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I attend camps for two reasons.

1. Get noticed
2. Get hired.

That is it.

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Ditto...but of course to learn too
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Old Sun May 08, 2005, 05:54pm
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My goals in this order are:

1. Get more games in the conferences I'm in
2. Stay on staff in those conferences
3. Get hired in more D1 conferences
4. Although it might be impossible, keep trying to ref the perfect game
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Old Mon May 09, 2005, 08:31am
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Goals:

1. Perfect mechanics and angles.
2. Get recognized and hired.
3. Have fun.

Oh yea, lose 10 lbs before 1st camp.
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Old Mon May 09, 2005, 09:35am
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1) Get better games in the conferences I work
2) Get hired by other assignors
3) Get better at mechanics (NFHS or NCAA, depending on the camp)
4) Make contacts
5) Have fun
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Old Mon May 09, 2005, 12:42pm
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I really do not know what my goals are or what they should be because this is my first ever camp and boy am I nervous. I guess not screwing up too bad would have to be my biggest concern.

You know it is always said that we as officials are to not be noticed, but when we go to camp that is all we are trying to do and in the process hopefully get better games where we work. pretty wierd huh.
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Old Mon May 09, 2005, 12:50pm
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this is my first ever camp and boy am I nervous. I guess not screwing up too bad would have to be my biggest concern.
You're going to screw up. The observers will let you know in no uncertain terms that you screwed up. Your goal should be not to screw up the same thing twice.
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Old Mon May 09, 2005, 03:11pm
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Man, I know I screwed up at my first camp, and basically at some point every game. And at camp, those counselors let me know it too. It was tough love. But I had a blast and gained lots of confidence. I just go to have fun, learn, and make friends.
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Old Mon May 09, 2005, 03:55pm
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I really do not know what my goals are or what they should be because this is my first ever camp and boy am I nervous. I guess not screwing up too bad would have to be my biggest concern.
I'm with ya there. If I decide to go, haven't made up my mind yet. I probably will though.

I've been evaluated before and it only feels nerve racking for about the first 30 seconds, then you just ref good ol' fashion basketball after that. I know I'll have fun and I'm sure I'll learn the 300 reaons why I'm not ready to referee in the NBA yet.

Being my first camp, I would just like to learn as much as possible.
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Old Mon May 09, 2005, 05:00pm
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Your goal should be not to screw up the same thing twice.
Or, worse, in two consecutive years . . .
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Old Tue May 10, 2005, 10:19am
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All you guys are talking about the instructors letting you know that you messed up more often than not by tough love. I feel mine will be worst of all. I am attending the IIOC camp for the SEC, Atlantic Sun, and Ohio Valley Confrences. Just if that pressure isn't enough listen to the guys coming to be instructors. All are NBA officials:

Zach Zarba, Kevin Fehr, Leon Wood, Courtney Kirkland,

Leroy Richardson, Phil Robinson, Tony Brown, Sean Corbin,

Scott Wall, Anthony Jordan, Bennie Adams, Eric Lewis,

Olandis Poole.

To make it worse I have only worked three man once before. Tell me that doesn't help.
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Old Tue May 10, 2005, 10:48am
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I am attending the IIOC camp for the SEC, Atlantic Sun, and Ohio Valley Confrences.

I don't know what IIOC stands for, but I went to Nunn-Better two years ago and Nat'l Pro-Am last year. Both those camps were run in conjunction with Mr. Guthrie's conferences. They were both very positive experiences. Soak it up.

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listen to the guys coming to be instructors:
Zach Zarba, Kevin Fehr, Leon Wood, Courtney Kirkland,
Leroy Richardson, Phil Robinson, Tony Brown, Sean Corbin,
Scott Wall, Anthony Jordan, Bennie Adams, Eric Lewis,
Olandis Poole..

Many of these guys were observers/clinicians at the camps I attended. I will tell you that Zach is a great guy. Very positive and LOVES to talk rules and situations. (He hung out with me for about an hour and a half during down-time of my USBL try-out a few years ago. Just the two of us. It was awesome.)

Phil is great to listen to. He's usually pretty laid back, unless he feels that you just aren't trying. Then he's "in your face" level of intense. But another great guy.

Sean Corbin is a great speaker. He talked to us about the elements of "professionalism" in being a top-flight official. Again, very approachable and great insights. I think Tony Brown was at Nunn-Better, but I honestly don't remember if I got much of a chance to talk with him.

Like I said, go and just soak it up.

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To make it worse I have only worked three man once before. Tell me that doesn't help.
Well, it will make things a little tougher for you b/c you're going to be worried about where you're standing instead of what you're looking at. Don't forget to officiate!! Having said that, most of the feedback will be about what you call or don't call, having a patient whistle, getting a good look.

Good luck, have a great camp. I'd love to hear how it goes for you, as I will not be attending that camp this year due to schedule conflicts.
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Old Tue May 10, 2005, 12:01pm
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Chuck thanks for the support. By the way IIOC stands for Identification Invitation Only Camp. It is great to hear that
Zach Zarba is such a great guy, and that Sean Corbin is such a great speaker because they are my two favorites.

I still can't help but be nervous. Officiating basketball is what I want to do for a living and I truly love it and I am scared to all hell that I will not be recognized or they will think that I am just horrible. But I was also told that knowing nothing about three man might be an advantage because they can teach me what I need to know instead of me already having bad habits. We'll see. Thanks again for the support and advice.

P.S. If you know anyone or anywhere I can recieve A cca manual or ncaa rulebook i would greatly appreciate the info.
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