Foul without contact?

[HokiePaul]

then rams into our girl with the ball as she lands.

Just to clarify, are you saying that the ball and only the ball made contact with the defender?


If the offensive player intentionally "used the ball as a weapon" to clear out an opponent, I'd probably have an intentional foul on the offense.

But if it was not intentional and happened (as you said) unintentionally with the player trying to gather the ball and land, I'm calling it like I would a normal block/charge play ... I'm looking at whether or not the defender have legal guarding position and going from there.

[MD Longhorn]

Originally Posted by HokiePaul

Just to clarify, are you saying that the ball and only the ball made contact with the defender?


If the offensive player intentionally "used the ball as a weapon" to clear out an opponent, I'd probably have an intentional foul on the offense.

But if it was not intentional and happened (as you said) unintentionally with the player trying to gather the ball and land, I'm calling it like I would a normal block/charge play ... I'm looking at whether or not the defender have legal guarding position and going from there.

If the dribbler didn't use the ball intentionally to clear out an opponent, then there's no way you can call a foul on the defender for contacting the ball (or being contacted by the ball) - contacting the ball is legal.

[Nevadaref]

Originally Posted by HokiePaul

Just to clarify, are you saying that the ball and only the ball made contact with the defender?


If the offensive player intentionally "used the ball as a weapon" to clear out an opponent, I'd probably have an intentional foul on the offense.

But if it was not intentional and happened (as you said) unintentionally with the player trying to gather the ball and land, I'm calling it like I would a normal block/charge play ... I'm looking at whether or not the defender have legal guarding position and going from there.

Count me in the camp that believes this way of thinking and officiating such action is dead wrong BY RULE.

[HokiePaul]

Originally Posted by Nevadaref

Count me in the camp that believes this way of thinking and officiating such action is dead wrong BY RULE.

If this actually occured where the only contact by the defender was with the ball, then I'm not calling a block.

Based on the original description provided, I find it hard to believe that there was a serious collision and the only points of contact were between ball and player. If it's that bad a collision, there is other contact involved. If it was just the ball, the contact wasn't probably that bad and I would have a no-call