State Playoffs - Call or No Call

[Rich]

Originally Posted by Nevadaref

I hope that the announcer was wrong and that the shot by #30 Red was ruled a 2, not a 3.
The collision along the sideline is a clear PC, but if I recall my chats with Camron correctly OR is 2-man for all games, so the Trail who is table side would be straight-lined and the Lead would have to come get this.
The Lead is then willing to call across and outside of the lane for marginal contact that results in game-winning FTs. I don't believe that the defender should have been penalized there.

I still work a fair amount of 2-man and I know that as the L I would hope I'd come get this.

[Nevadaref]

Originally Posted by Rich

I still work a fair amount of 2-man and I know that as the L I would hope I'd come get this.

Are you talking about the crash or the shooting foul?

My criticism of the Lead isn't that he called a shooting foul, but that he was willing to come out of his PCA to penalize that contact yet wasn't willing to come save the day on the much more obvious crash.

My guess as to why is that he ran all the way down to the endline prematurely during this action. That positioning put him far away from the sideline crash and made him reluctant to whistle. He should have been FTLE at the time of the crash and then hustled down to the normal close-down Lead position should the dribbler have gotten past the defenders cleanly.

One can only set up early and receive the play as Lead in 3-man.

[Rich]

Originally Posted by Nevadaref

Are you talking about the crash or the shooting foul?

The crash. And I don't see why the T couldn't have gotten that, despite the inferior angle. We make those calls all the time.

[zm1283]

Originally Posted by Rich

The crash. And I don't see why the T couldn't have gotten that, despite the inferior angle. We make those calls all the time.

I'm the same way. The trail should have gotten the PC foul on the sideline, 2-man or not.

[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by Nevadaref

My criticism of the Lead isn't that he called a shooting foul, but that he was willing to come out of his PCA to penalize that contact yet wasn't willing to come save the day on the much more obvious crash.

I think it is a matter if distance. At best, he was 50' from the sideline crash...at the far sideline.

Originally Posted by Nevadaref

My guess as to why is that he ran all the way down to the endline prematurely during this action.

How do you come to that conclusion. He is only visible at that spot just as the shot goes up. There is nothing in the video that tells you how long he was there.

Originally Posted by Nevadaref

That positioning put him far away from the sideline crash and made him reluctant to whistle. He should have been FTLE at the time of the crash and then hustled down to the normal close-down Lead position should the dribbler have gotten past the defenders cleanly.

One can only set up early and receive the play as Lead in 3-man.

There seemed to be a lot of players between anywhere he might have been and the crash. Perhaps he just didn't have a clear view.


The inconsistencies in what is expected of him on this play are just silly. Why is it that he should have reached 50+ feet with perhaps a questionable view to make one call but going 20 feet with a clear view is bad??? Seems more like a case of armchair QB than a realistic and fair analysis.

[Rich]

Personally, I think this is the trail's to get -- he may have been focusing on the other defender, though, and all of a sudden someone appeared and got run over. I can see the T not getting this for that reason. But then the L would've had to. Somebody had to.

Here's an idea - a third official would have.