Clips: Gonzaga v. BYU

[Tio]

IMO - this is an obvious F1. First, Kaufisi is a football player. Second, after the hard foul, him standing over Olynyk and clearly saying something (probably not in the spirit of sportsmanship) would seal the deal.

[agr8zebra]

So we are saying a team would have to get for a warning for: A) Huddling in the key, B)reaching through the plane and C)interfering with the ball after a made basket. Then if they committed the same type of act, A, B or C they would then be assessed a technical? Thus we would be issuing 3 separate warnings.

I only do HS, under NFHS, which I feel one warning would suffice for all 3 acts and a subsequent occurrence would result in a T Foul. Right?


FYI... the BYU player penalized was a member of the BYU football team last fall. Plays Defensive End and he should be a good one, maybe even play on Sunday. He is aggressive. I did him in HS basketball his So and Jr years, he didn't play BB his senior as he tore an ACL in Football, so this year is his first basketball in about 4 years as he did the Mormon mission thing for 2 years. He has a decision to make as BYU starts Spring Drills on Monday. Football or Basketball???

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by agr8zebra

So we are saying a team would have to get for a warning for: A) Huddling in the key, B)reaching through the plane and C)interfering with the ball after a made basket. Then if they committed the same type of act, A, B or C they would then be assessed a technical? Thus we would be issuing 3 separate warnings.

I only do HS, under NFHS, which I feel one warning would suffice for all 3 acts and a subsequent occurrence would result in a T Foul. Right?

Your missing a 4th, "water on the court after a time-out".

And yes, they are all separate for NCAA.

[zm1283]

Originally Posted by Tio

IMO - this is an obvious F1. First, Kaufisi is a football player. Second, after the hard foul, him standing over Olynyk and clearly saying something (probably not in the spirit of sportsmanship) would seal the deal.

So?

I don't think this warranted a FF1.

The DOG warning I can live with, but I'm not sure it really was.

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by agr8zebra

So we are saying a team would have to get for a warning for: A) Huddling in the key, B)reaching through the plane and C)interfering with the ball after a made basket. Then if they committed the same type of act, A, B or C they would then be assessed a technical? Thus we would be issuing 3 separate warnings.

I only do HS, under NFHS, which I feel one warning would suffice for all 3 acts and a subsequent occurrence would result in a T Foul. Right?


FYI... the BYU player penalized was a member of the BYU football team last fall. Plays Defensive End and he should be a good one, maybe even play on Sunday. He is aggressive. I did him in HS basketball his So and Jr years, he didn't play BB his senior as he tore an ACL in Football, so this year is his first basketball in about 4 years as he did the Mormon mission thing for 2 years. He has a decision to make as BYU starts Spring Drills on Monday. Football or Basketball???

FED: One warning for any of the acts, then any of the acts is a T. So, one warning maximum.

NCAA: One warning for each of the acts, then that same act again is a T. So, four (or 5) warnings are possible.

[agr8zebra]

As I only do HS, and reading through the post I gathered that NFHS added the "Court Ready" DOG and the NCAA didn't. But if you say Court being Game Ready in NCAA, I should have added it as the 4th. They each get warnings?

[Tio]

Originally Posted by zm1283

So?

I don't think this warranted a FF1.

The DOG warning I can live with, but I'm not sure it really was.

If you aren't aware when bench players come into the game to muck it up and "rough-up" the other team's star players, your games will not go well.

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by Tio

If you aren't aware when bench players come into the game to muck it up and "rough-up" the other team's star players, your games will not go well.

Exactly. I always discuss problem children in my pre-games.

[JRutledge]

I think this is clearly and FF1 when the player runs his mouth afterwards. If he was just fouling the player and that was all, then he would have walked away. And this guy he knocked down is listed as 7'0" tall. And that player is not soft at all either.

Peace

[APG]

I thought it was an obvious flagrant foul.

[IUgrad92]

This game was very physical from the get-go, so the FF1 play did not surprise me one bit. I believe Kaufisi had 3 fouls in the first 15 minutes of the game, and it was plain to see his purpose for being on the floor.

With that said, I think Gonzaga withstood a pretty hostile environment and opponent, which will serve them well in the weeks ahead.

[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

So are you saying Camron that this should not be a Flagrant 1? Or are you saying that we should not call a foul? I guess I am confused by what you are suggesting should be called here.

Peace

Definitely a defensive foul, but not a FF1.

[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by Tio

IMO - this is an obvious F1. First, Kaufisi is a football player. Second, after the hard foul, him standing over Olynyk and clearly saying something (probably not in the spirit of sportsmanship) would seal the deal.

Then it should be a foul, then a T. But not upgrade a common foul to a FF1 because of a dead ball action that would be a T.

[Rich]

Originally Posted by APG

I thought it was an obvious flagrant foul.

And I wouldn't cry if he got whacked for the little stare down, either.

[fullor30]

Originally Posted by bob jenkins

Not worthy of a warning.

Not worthy of a FF1 (shooting foul only)

Both based just on the clip and not on anything else that might have transpired in the game.

Agreed