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Old Tue Feb 26, 2013, 12:35pm
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Florida 6A Girls Final

After watching a little of Bad Zebra's 7A final, I saw the links for the video to other games and started clicking around watching the last few minutes to other games. The 6A game had a wild ending.

Here's the link to the 7A game: 2013 FHSAA Class 7A Girls Basketball Championship: Buchholtz vs Nova (Event): Florida: PlayOn! Sports

Scroll to the bottom and click on the 6A game, then jump to about 1:34:00 to find the sequence. After green forced OT with a banked in three at the regulation horn, white and green are tied again late in OT, about 2 seconds left. Out of a timeout, green throws a long pass picked off a midcourt. White tries to shoot the 35-footer but is fouled. The new lead has the call from 40 feet away, although the C has a fist up too. No idea how the new lead can have this call, unless she has a block on Green #12. It looks like Green #20 may have fouled her on the arm, and that may be what the C has, but there is no way the lead can have that.

White has 3 FTA with no time on the clock, to make one and win the championship. She makes the first and it should be game over, but it takes the officials a bit to figure that out.

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Old Tue Feb 26, 2013, 12:56pm
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Regarding the 6A game: I don't see any foul. It looks like the C mirrors the foul call.
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Old Tue Feb 26, 2013, 01:16pm
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Maybe G12 hip checked the shooter.
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Old Tue Feb 26, 2013, 01:37pm
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After watching a little of Bad Zebra's 7A final, I saw the links for the video to other games and started clicking around watching the last few minutes to other games. The 6A game had a wild ending.

Here's the link to the 7A game: 2013 FHSAA Class 7A Girls Basketball Championship: Buchholtz vs Nova (Event): Florida: PlayOn! Sports

Scroll to the bottom and click on the 6A game, then jump to about 1:34:00 to find the sequence. After green forced OT with a banked in three at the regulation horn, white and green are tied again late in OT, about 2 seconds left. Out of a timeout, green throws a long pass picked off a midcourt. White tries to shoot the 35-footer but is fouled. The new lead has the call from 40 feet away, although the C has a fist up too. No idea how the new lead can have this call, unless she has a block on Green #12. It looks like Green #20 may have fouled her on the arm, and that may be what the C has, but there is no way the lead can have that.

White has 3 FTA with no time on the clock, to make one and win the championship. She makes the first and it should be game over, but it takes the officials a bit to figure that out.
You can also make a case for time expired. Lead was determined to make a call, couldn't wait. At least with C having her fist up, pass the call to her. Weak
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Old Tue Feb 26, 2013, 02:26pm
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How the L could see this is a mystery.

How the crew does not know the game is over after the first is a mystery.

The crew did not handle this end of game very well.

I will live and die with no call and 2OT.
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Old Tue Feb 26, 2013, 02:31pm
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After watching a little of Bad Zebra's 7A final, I saw the links for the video to other games and started clicking around watching the last few minutes to other games. The 6A game had a wild ending.

Here's the link to the 7A game: 2013 FHSAA Class 7A Girls Basketball Championship: Buchholtz vs Nova (Event): Florida: PlayOn! Sports

Watching the 7A - why did R point direction to start game prior to toss?
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Old Tue Feb 26, 2013, 02:49pm
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Here's all I will say. I watched it live. It was truly wild.

I was able to see a replay of the final foul that was called frame by frame. The shooter was clearly fouled by one player and an argument can be made...by a second defender as well.

I won't comment on what occured after the whistle, but it is definitely worthy of discussion. -BZ
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Old Tue Feb 26, 2013, 03:03pm
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Watching the 7A - why did R point direction to start game prior to toss?
Reasonably common mechanic. Don't know if it's specifically required / desired in FL.
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Old Tue Feb 26, 2013, 03:13pm
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Here's all I will say. I watched it live. It was truly wild.

I was able to see a replay of the final foul that was called frame by frame. The shooter was clearly fouled by one player and an argument can be made...by a second defender as well.

I won't comment on what occured after the whistle, but it is definitely worthy of discussion. -BZ
Well, then we know if jar had been working that game he would have made sure a multiple foul was reported.
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Old Tue Feb 26, 2013, 03:15pm
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Well, then we know if jar had been working that game he would have made sure a multiple foul was reported.

I mean, what other rules do you think they ignore?
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Old Tue Feb 26, 2013, 03:26pm
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Here's all I will say. I watched it live. It was truly wild.

I was able to see a replay of the final foul that was called frame by frame. The shooter was clearly fouled by one player and an argument can be made...by a second defender as well.

I won't comment on what occured after the whistle, but it is definitely worthy of discussion. -BZ
Which player "clearly" committed the foul, #20 or #12? I'm guessing #20, but for the L's sake I hope it was #12.
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Old Tue Feb 26, 2013, 04:12pm
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Which player "clearly" committed the foul, #20 or #12? I'm guessing #20, but for the L's sake I hope it was #12.
Frame by frame showed #20 was the more obvious (as is visible at regular speed replay as well).
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I mean, what other rules do you think they ignore?
Your recently elevated status does not excuse you from signaling your ironic intent in some conventional fashion, e.g.,
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Old Tue Feb 26, 2013, 04:19pm
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I'm not seeing how the Lead has a whistle on this play. The C is right there and the Lead needs to let the C decide whether or not any foul is committed.
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Old Tue Feb 26, 2013, 07:44pm
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So let me see if I've got this right......in a tied, OT state championship game...a player is obviously fouled in the act of shooting, and people in this thread are criticizing one of the TWO officials who called a foul. The call was correct, but people are criticizing who blew the whistle?

Interesting.
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