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Old Tue Feb 26, 2013, 03:15pm
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Well, then we know if jar had been working that game he would have made sure a multiple foul was reported.

I mean, what other rules do you think they ignore?
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Old Tue Feb 26, 2013, 04:14pm
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I mean, what other rules do you think they ignore?
Your recently elevated status does not excuse you from signaling your ironic intent in some conventional fashion, e.g.,
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Old Tue Feb 26, 2013, 04:19pm
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I'm not seeing how the Lead has a whistle on this play. The C is right there and the Lead needs to let the C decide whether or not any foul is committed.
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Old Tue Feb 26, 2013, 07:44pm
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So let me see if I've got this right......in a tied, OT state championship game...a player is obviously fouled in the act of shooting, and people in this thread are criticizing one of the TWO officials who called a foul. The call was correct, but people are criticizing who blew the whistle?

Interesting.
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Old Tue Feb 26, 2013, 07:51pm
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So let me see if I've got this right......in a tied, OT state championship game...a player is obviously fouled in the act of shooting, and people in this thread are criticizing one of the TWO officials who called a foul. The call was correct, but people are criticizing who blew the whistle?

Interesting.
It's not so obvious to me. I wish Bad Zebra could share the frame by frame replay. I stopped the clip and #12 clearly contacts the ball first. Can't tell if she gets the arm after that but I'll take BZ's word that there was a foul.

But I think it's still important to referee your primary and the L should not have had a whistle on this. It looks like the L reported the foul who on the player who did NOT commit what you call the obvious foul and since it's right in front of the C and the L is 40 feet away, she should have deferred to to the C to report since the play was right in front of her.

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Old Wed Feb 27, 2013, 07:52am
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So let me see if I've got this right......in a tied, OT state championship game...a player is obviously fouled in the act of shooting, and people in this thread are criticizing one of the TWO officials who called a foul. The call was correct, but people are criticizing who blew the whistle?

Interesting.
Absolutely I'm criticizing an official for calling a foul a very long distance outside of their PCA on a play that happened right in front of another official and the on-ball official had a whistle. And the foul wasn't OBVIOUS. Actually the only contact I saw was from the defender from behind which the Lead had no way of seeing.
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Old Wed Feb 27, 2013, 09:28am
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Absolutely I'm criticizing an official for calling a foul a very long distance outside of their PCA on a play that happened right in front of another official and the on-ball official had a whistle. And the foul wasn't OBVIOUS. Actually the only contact I saw was from the defender from behind which the Lead had no way of seeing.
+1000 She never gave C a chance to grab it. It certainly wasn't obvious to me.

Plus you would think she'd give C the call on double whistle. Still maintain time may have expired.

I'm not giving much credibility if state final officials don't realize game is over after winning free throw.

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Old Wed Feb 27, 2013, 11:54am
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So let me see if I've got this right......in a tied, OT state championship game...a player is obviously fouled in the act of shooting, and people in this thread are criticizing one of the TWO officials who called a foul. The call was correct, but people are criticizing who blew the whistle?

Interesting.
But what if C decided to pass on marginal contact and let the game to into another period? The L would have been putting the entire crew into a horrible position and the integrity of the crew has diminished. This is probably not a 2-whistle play unless the shooter absolutely gets crushed and C has a brain freeze, then that would need to become a crew call.

TRUST YOUR PARTNERS........especially in a game of this magnitude. You would like to think that each official has gotten there by their merits.
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Old Wed Feb 27, 2013, 01:51pm
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But what if C decided to pass on marginal contact and let the game to into another period? The L would have been putting the entire crew into a horrible position and the integrity of the crew has diminished. This is probably not a 2-whistle play unless the shooter absolutely gets crushed and C has a brain freeze, then that would need to become a crew call.

TRUST YOUR PARTNERS........especially in a game of this magnitude. You would like to think that each official has gotten there by their merits.
I agree...there were two officials in better position to get that. No way the lead, from the endline, should be calling that type of foul at the division line.
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Old Wed Feb 27, 2013, 02:02pm
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I agree...there were two officials in better position to get that. No way the lead, from the endline, should be calling that type of foul at the division line.
Agreed again and not trying to pile on, it may have been a good call, but certainly not by new lead.
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