The Official Forum  

Go Back   The Official Forum > Basketball

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Rate Thread Display Modes
  #1 (permalink)  
Old Fri Feb 15, 2013, 11:04am
Adam's Avatar
Keeper of the HAMMER
 
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: MST
Posts: 27,190
Buzzer beater, wrong way

Today's ESPN Not Top Ten, number six.

Clock winding down, defense gets rebound and shoots at the wrong basket. Horn goes just before the ball hits the rim. Official is on national tv counting the basket

I'd like to think they thought it through and waved it off.
__________________
Sprinkles are for winners.
Reply With Quote
  #2 (permalink)  
Old Fri Feb 15, 2013, 11:07am
Courageous When Prudent
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Hampton Roads, VA
Posts: 14,839
It happened a few years ago in a Virginia Tech game (defense accidentally tipped ball into basket--tip before buzzer, ball enters after buzzer) and Teddy Valentine erroneously counted the basket.

The NCAA sent out a memo afterwards.
__________________
A-hole formerly known as BNR
Reply With Quote
  #3 (permalink)  
Old Fri Feb 15, 2013, 11:08am
Official Forum Member
 
Join Date: May 2005
Posts: 3,505
Quote:
Originally Posted by Adam View Post
Today's ESPN Not Top Ten, number six.

Clock winding down, defense gets rebound and shoots at the wrong basket. Horn goes just before the ball hits the rim. Official is on national tv counting the basket

I'd like to think they thought it through and waved it off.
Oh but this happened couple years ago in my old association in SoCal. A "Top Rated" official did the same thing in a televised game. Him and his partner didn't know the definition of a shot. And by top official I mean state tourney top.
__________________
in OS I trust
Reply With Quote
  #4 (permalink)  
Old Fri Feb 15, 2013, 11:09am
Official Forum Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2012
Posts: 249
Just to be clear since I have never had this actually happen:

Ball is dead at buzzer because it was not released on a try by definition, correct?
Reply With Quote
  #5 (permalink)  
Old Fri Feb 15, 2013, 11:09am
Courageous When Prudent
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Hampton Roads, VA
Posts: 14,839
Quote:
Originally Posted by deecee View Post
Oh but this happened couple years ago in my old association in SoCal. A "Top Rated" official did the same thing in a televised game. Him and his partner didn't know the definition of a shot. And by top official I mean state tourney top.
It being SoCall and all, quite sure they are now working for Violet Palmer or Ed Rush.
__________________
A-hole formerly known as BNR
Reply With Quote
  #6 (permalink)  
Old Fri Feb 15, 2013, 11:09am
Official Forum Member
 
Join Date: May 2005
Posts: 3,505
Quote:
Originally Posted by BadNewsRef View Post
It happened a few years ago in a Virginia Tech game (defense accidentally tipped ball into basket--tip before buzzer, ball enters after buzzer) and Teddy Valentine erroneously counted the basket.

The NCAA sent out a memo afterwards.
How close was the ball going through the basket and buzzer sounding? At the time did they have replay capabilities?
__________________
in OS I trust
Reply With Quote
  #7 (permalink)  
Old Fri Feb 15, 2013, 11:10am
Official Forum Member
 
Join Date: May 2005
Posts: 3,505
Quote:
Originally Posted by rekent View Post
Just to be clear since I have never had this actually happen:

Ball is dead at buzzer because it was not released on a try by definition, correct?
Yes. What is a definition of a shot? & When does the ball become dead? Know these 2 and you know the solution.
__________________
in OS I trust
Reply With Quote
  #8 (permalink)  
Old Fri Feb 15, 2013, 11:11am
Official Forum Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2012
Posts: 249
Quote:
Originally Posted by deecee View Post
Yes. What is a definition of a shot? & When does the ball become dead? Know these 2 and you know the solution.
Was pretty sure I did, just have never really thought about this one.
Reply With Quote
  #9 (permalink)  
Old Fri Feb 15, 2013, 11:12am
Courageous When Prudent
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Hampton Roads, VA
Posts: 14,839
Quote:
Originally Posted by deecee View Post
How close was the ball going through the basket and buzzer sounding? At the time did they have replay capabilities?
I forget all the particulars but the ball was definitely tipped before time expired and definitely entered the basket after time expired. Teddy and crew got the call wrong. I may still have memo b/c at the time a very good friend of my was working in the CAA which has the same supervisor as the ACC.
__________________
A-hole formerly known as BNR
Reply With Quote
  #10 (permalink)  
Old Fri Feb 15, 2013, 11:17am
Official Forum Member
 
Join Date: May 2005
Posts: 3,505
Quote:
Originally Posted by BadNewsRef View Post
I forget all the particulars but the ball was definitely tipped before time expired and definitely entered the basket after time expired. Teddy and crew got the call wrong. I may still have memo b/c at the time a very good friend of my was working in the CAA which has the same supervisor as the ACC.
This I just don't get. These are not obscure rules which I can understand messing up. I can also understand a new official (less than 3-4 years) getting this wrong too. But IMO stuff like this is pretty inexcusable.
__________________
in OS I trust
Reply With Quote
  #11 (permalink)  
Old Fri Feb 15, 2013, 11:21am
Courageous When Prudent
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Hampton Roads, VA
Posts: 14,839
Can't find memo, but here is the game: TechSideline.Com | 2005-06 Basketball Recap: Hokies Drop Close Game to Bowling Green, 72-71

I remember seeing video back when it happened and there was no doubt the basket should not have counted and the memo acknowledged as much. I'm quite sure we even discussed it here the forums.
__________________
A-hole formerly known as BNR
Reply With Quote
  #12 (permalink)  
Old Fri Feb 15, 2013, 11:36am
Official Forum Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2010
Posts: 520
Taking me back

After reading the game account, I had forgotten there were more timing issues than the last shot...kindofaclustr
Reply With Quote
  #13 (permalink)  
Old Fri Feb 15, 2013, 11:51am
Tio Tio is offline
Official Forum Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Posts: 463
You cannot have a try at the wrong basket. So the ball immediately becomes dead at the horn.
Reply With Quote
  #14 (permalink)  
Old Fri Feb 15, 2013, 11:58am
Official Forum Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2012
Location: Central Ohio
Posts: 537
Would this be any different under Fed rules?
Reply With Quote
  #15 (permalink)  
Old Fri Feb 15, 2013, 12:12pm
Adam's Avatar
Keeper of the HAMMER
 
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: MST
Posts: 27,190
Quote:
Originally Posted by scrounge View Post
Would this be any different under Fed rules?
No.
__________________
Sprinkles are for winners.
Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks

Thread Tools
Display Modes Rate This Thread
Rate This Thread:

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
My first Buzzer Beater Toren Basketball 7 Mon Jan 30, 2012 02:59pm
Buzzer Beater or not? SCalScoreKeeper Basketball 41 Wed Jan 18, 2012 11:49am
Buzzer Beater djskinn Basketball 4 Sun Mar 01, 2009 12:35pm
My first almost buzzer beater..... Chess Ref Basketball 2 Sat Feb 18, 2006 03:28pm
Buzzer-Beater Grail Basketball 2 Fri Dec 05, 2003 01:42am


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 06:03pm.



Search Engine Friendly URLs by vBSEO 3.3.0 RC1