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Old Fri Feb 15, 2013, 09:48am
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2. A change in the Return to Play (RTP) Protocol prohibiting any student who has been removed from a practice or a competition by a coach or a contest official to return to that practice or competition on that same day. RTP will be permitted thereafter (meaning no earlier than the next day) only with written authorization by a physician, either an M.D. or D.O. If a Board of Education or other governing board wishes to authorize another licensed health care provider such as an athletic trainer, to perform this authorization, the provider must be acting in consultation with a physician (M.D. or D.O), pursuant to a referral from a physician, in collaboration with a physician, or under the supervision of a physician.
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So if I, as an official without formal medical training, remove a player for concussion-like symptoms, they're done for the day, even if they get checked out by a medical professional who says they're fine to return?

Talk about throwing the baby out with the bathwater.
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Old Fri Feb 15, 2013, 09:54am
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This is great... we are doctors now too.
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Old Fri Feb 15, 2013, 10:01am
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OHSAA was against it. The State of Ohio rammed it through.

Our old rule was we put em out, a Doc or cert trainer could put them back in with a form that we were supposed to keep. In absence of the form, any napkin was to do. In addition, they advised us to hold on to these documents...FOREVER
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Old Fri Feb 15, 2013, 10:44am
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Now I have another reason not to like Ohio.

Man that is really silly on so many levels. Then you are going to get legitimate issues not looked at because officials do not want to take that risk or responsibility.

Gotta love a legislature that is trying to make laws about voting that make no sense and now this. Stupid beyond belief.

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Old Fri Feb 15, 2013, 10:46am
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Old Fri Feb 15, 2013, 10:54am
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Now I have another reason not to like Ohio.

Man that is really silly on so many levels. Then you are going to get legitimate issues not looked at because officials do not want to take that risk or responsibility.

Gotta love a legislature that is trying to make laws about voting that make no sense and now this. Stupid beyond belief.

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Now I have another reason not to like Ohio.
Ohio? Great. Now we'll get to see Mark T. DeNucci, Sr. playing doctor. Now that's a scary thought.
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Old Fri Feb 15, 2013, 10:47am
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So now when you show up to work a game, the AD (or whoever) will be required to ask you to show him/her your certificate that shows you have completed the concussion training? And you will be required to have it with you for every contest? Wow...

And we get to decide if a player is done for the evening or not? With our years of medical training and vast experience dealing with concussed athletes? Double wow...

Gotta love it when politiciand get involved with stuff.
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Old Fri Feb 15, 2013, 10:55am
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So now when you show up to work a game, the AD (or whoever) will be required to ask you to show him/her your certificate that shows you have completed the concussion training? And you will be required to have it with you for every contest? Wow...

And we get to decide if a player is done for the evening or not? With our years of medical training and vast experience dealing with concussed athletes? Double wow...

Gotta love it when politiciand get involved with stuff.
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That's been the guidance, keep the certificate in your car or gear bag or something. I don't mind the sitting out part - we're not diagnosing anything, just sitting them out because they exhibit some signs or symptoms consistent with concussions. It's up to the medical professional to diagnose and treat.

The new part is no return to play on same day - even if a med pro says it's ok. That goes against all the recent training. If the licensed medical professional was willing to sign in writing a release, we were allowed to return them same day. After that, it's the coaches'/AD's issue. One trainer who gave us a class says he's signed a same day return 3 times in the last couple years - all when he saw the play in question and was sure it did not involve a head hit (kid got hit in the gut but was staggering due to pain, not hit to the head, etc). So it doesn't sound like it was all that prevalent to have a same-day return anyway, but now it's out of the question.
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