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Old Thu Feb 14, 2013, 12:22pm
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Over and back???
On game start jump ball....ball is tipped to frontcourt to player where he control tips it to backcourt to teammate..is this over and back???? I say yes.
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Old Thu Feb 14, 2013, 12:37pm
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You posted this using your smart phone, didn't you?
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Old Thu Feb 14, 2013, 12:40pm
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On game start jump ball....ball is tipped to frontcourt to player where he control tips it to backcourt to teammate..is this over and back???? I say yes.
There's no such thing as a "control tip." If he didn't hold it, he didn't have control, thus a legal play.
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Old Thu Feb 14, 2013, 12:42pm
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On game start jump ball....ball is tipped to frontcourt to player where he control tips it to backcourt to teammate..is this over and back???? I say yes.
What needs to happen for there to be a backcourt violation? Also, look at rule 4-12.

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Neither team control nor player control exists during a dead ball, a jump ball or when the ball is in flight during a try or tap for goal
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Old Thu Feb 14, 2013, 12:44pm
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Neither team control nor player control exists during a dead ball, a jump ball or when the ball is in flight during a try or tap for goal
But the "jump ball" ended when it was touched by a non-jumper. 6-3-8.
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Old Thu Feb 14, 2013, 12:47pm
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But the "jump ball" ended when it was touched by a non-jumper. 6-3-8.
True ... but I wasn't trying to suggest that as the only criteria. Just an extra little caveat.
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Old Thu Feb 14, 2013, 12:48pm
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But the "jump ball" ended when it was touched by a non-jumper. 6-3-8.
True, but when does control get established?
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Old Thu Feb 14, 2013, 12:50pm
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I wouldn't have a backcourt violation.
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Old Thu Feb 14, 2013, 01:32pm
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True, but when does control get established?
I wasn't trying to imply there'd be a backcourt, I say tip is not enough for control.
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Old Thu Feb 14, 2013, 01:37pm
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I wasn't trying to imply there'd be a backcourt, I say tip is not enough for control.
I was simply pointing out the intent behind PG's reference.
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Old Thu Feb 14, 2013, 02:19pm
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On game start jump ball....ball is tipped to frontcourt to player where he control tips it to backcourt to teammate..is this over and back???? I say yes.
Tips, no. Catches and passes, yes.
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