Time out

[Sharpshooternes]

Originally Posted by Rich

The coach isn't entitled to the clock stopping the instant he asks for a timeout. I have put time back on, but I'd never consider adding time from before my whistle blows - it's only when the timer is slow in stopping the clock.

5 seconds left A1 makes a bucket to go up by 1. You hear timout 3 times quickly by B Coach immediatley. You have definate knowledge that the request was made at 5.o seconds on the clock. You turn and verify that it is indeed the coach who has made the request. Whistle at 3.8 sec and then timer gets clock stopped at 3.2. What are you going to do in this sitch? Would anyone put time back to 5 or at least 3.8?

[just another ref]

Originally Posted by Sharpshooternes

5 seconds left A1 makes a bucket to go up by 1. You hear timout 3 times quickly by B Coach immediatley. You have definate knowledge that the request was made at 5.o seconds on the clock. You turn and verify that it is indeed the coach who has made the request. Whistle at 3.8 sec and then timer gets clock stopped at 3.2. What are you going to do in this sitch? Would anyone put time back to 5 or at least 3.8?

If you see the time at the whistle, you can put that time back up.

[Nevadaref]

Originally Posted by Sharpshooternes

5 seconds left A1 makes a bucket to go up by 1. You hear timout 3 times quickly by B Coach immediatley. You have definate knowledge that the request was made at 5.o seconds on the clock. You turn and verify that it is indeed the coach who has made the request. Whistle at 3.8 sec and then timer gets clock stopped at 3.2. What are you going to do in this sitch? Would anyone put time back to 5 or at least 3.8?

BY RULE the referee should have the clock reset to 3.8, if one of the game officials observes it.

[Sharpshooternes]

Originally Posted by Nevadaref

BY RULE the referee should have the clock reset to 3.8, if one of the game officials observes it.

What do you tell the coach who says, I was calling time out right at 5 seconds. You obviously heard me. Why do we only get 3.8 seconds?

[Nevadaref]

Originally Posted by Sharpshooternes

What do you tell the coach who says, I was calling time out right at 5 seconds. You obviously heard me. Why do we only get 3.8 seconds?

I'd have no issue telling the coach that BY RULE the clock stops when the whistle sounds, and he/she needs to account for the reaction time of the official when requesting a time-out.

[ronny mulkey]

Originally Posted by Nevadaref

I'd have no issue telling the coach that BY RULE the clock stops when the whistle sounds, and he/she needs to account for the reaction time of the official when requesting a time-out.

I think coaches need to be a liitle more tolerant of my reaction time, as well. But, I have no problem hearing a request, glancing at the clock to note the time, blowing my whistle and putting the time BACK to my notation. Of course, I don't do this at at the 2:23 mark of the first period, either.

I'm not going to punish a properly requested T.O. because I spit my whistle out of my mouth and couldn't alert the timekeeper. I think there is enough verbiage in the rulebook i.e. "the whistle seldom causes the ball to become dead", "spirit of the rules", etc.

In Georgia, we have a RULE - no free throws are shot with no time on the clock 0:00. You must put time back up there if you clearly heard your whistle before the horn.

[Adam]

That Georgia rule clearly contradicts Fed rules.

[ronny mulkey]

Originally Posted by Adam

That Georgia rule clearly contradicts Fed rules.

Understood. Officiating here is ran by a former Women's college guy and have a lot of Women influence in other leadership areas. For example, we use Women's floor coverage area instead of Fed coverage. The time "remaining time" guideline comes out of the Women's side.

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by Sharpshooternes

What do you tell the coach who says, I was calling time out right at 5 seconds. You obviously heard me. Why do we only get 3.8 seconds?

Tell the coach the purchase a PTS for his gymnasium and he will cut down on those seconds lost.

This coach probably has a college degree yet feels justified in asking such a stupid question.

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by Sharpshooternes

5 seconds left A1 makes a bucket to go up by 1. You hear timout 3 times quickly by B Coach immediatley. You have definate knowledge that the request was made at 5.o seconds on the clock. You turn and verify that it is indeed the coach who has made the request. Whistle at 3.8 sec and then timer gets clock stopped at 3.2. What are you going to do in this sitch? Would anyone put time back to 5 or at least 3.8?

It shouldn't take 1.2 seconds (or two seconds in some other example in this thread) to validate the TO.

Certainly with 5 seconds left in the game, you should be attuned to the possibility (or probablity) of a request and be able to recognize the coaches voice (or maybe even be looking at him / her as soon as the ball is through the hoop).