Block/charge video

[bainsey]

It speaks for itself.

[Camron Rust]

Joey Crawford's grandson????

That was a PC all day and hopping up and down like that doesn't change it.

[fullor30]

Originally Posted by Camron Rust

Joey Crawford's grandson????

That was a PC all day and hopping up and down like that doesn't change it.

Ha Ha! Exactly. from the Pia Zodora school of acting, besides a bad call IMHO he looks silly. I don't think he ever saw or heard his partner

[Triad zebra]

This can't be for real. The trail is definitely an actor from the comedy channel.

[rekent]

From that camera angle, I have PC.

And from how I was taught, T has primary whistle on that play (although he should quit going to Joey C.'s camps) I think L has a much better look at it though

[Triad zebra]

They should at least do the correct thing and go with the blarge.

[VaTerp]

Easy PC.

I don't really remember how this is taught in two person but the L had the defender all the way and was making the correct call.

Its pretty obvious the T never picked up the defender, is looking through at least two bodies, and just flat out missed it.

As for the jumping up and down mechanic complete with the scoring of the basket......as the fan in the video says, "That's TERRIBLE!!!"

[OKREF]

PC. I think that is the leads, even though it is in transition it is coming right at the lead. Sure looks like they had a barge.

I love how the Trail slides to the right and does the block motion when reporting the foul, essentially saying "I saw a better angle than you, the defender slid underneath, which makes this call a block". How arrogant.

Kudos to the Lead, I would be flipping my ish if my P had the audacity to 1) not trust me to make the call, and 2) make the wrong call. Lead handled it well.

[APG]

Originally Posted by seanwestref

I love how the Trail slides to the right and does the block motion when reporting the foul, essentially saying "I saw a better angle than you, the defender slid underneath, which makes this call a block". How arrogant.

Kudos to the Lead, I would be flipping my ish if my P had the audacity to 1) not trust me to make the call, and 2) make the wrong call. Lead handled it well.

I doubt he was doing that to tell his partner he had a better angle or to be arrogant. I think, more than likely, he's just trying to sell a really close call. To me, the only thing that was over the top is the jumping with the signal. The only thing I'll say is if you're going to make a display like that, you damn sure better get the call right (of which I have a charge).

Should the trail have let the lead get first crack at this play? Definitely...is it worth losing your cool over? Hell no...especially if it isn't a regular thing. I do agree that the lead did a good job of holding off on his signal..

[egj13]

Originally Posted by seanwestref

I love how the Trail slides to the right and does the block motion when reporting the foul.

I work with 2 guys that report their blocks like that every time..EVERY time...with the slide to the right. I have always thought it was ugly. Also, tell the guy in the video to count the basket before reporting.

[egj13]

Originally Posted by VaTerp

Easy PC.

I don't really remember how this is taught in two person but the L had the defender all the way and was making the correct call.

In our pool that would be the T's call initially but we always TRY and I stress try to make eye contact on a double whistle before just blowing up a call. You can sell a call just as effectively and still make eye contact ahead of the signal...and IMO, he oversold the call to the point that I would think he knew he was wrong by how hard he tried to sell it.

Kudos to the L...and I might not confront the guy on the call but he would go on my block list so I didn't have to work with a guy that acts like that.

[zm1283]

That first video makes me have less respect for that guy every time I watch it. This is one of the things people are talking about when they accuse officials of drawing attention to themselves. He looks like a clown. Has he never been evaluated, or do the powers-that-be in that area like these mechanics?

[Tio]

Cue the guy who always inserts the California referee jokes.

This is really bad... 2 person game or otherwise.

[zm1283]

Originally Posted by VaTerp

We've all reached, we've all missed. We'll all reach and miss again.

But if I'm the L here Im still a little pissed at 1) the lack of trust showed by the T 2) the over the top theatrics on the wrong call and 3) the complete lack of awareness of the L's whistle and preliminary.

And then when you go to youtube you see this same official calling a block from almost 50 ft away with the same BS over the top mechanics. So he now appears twice on this organization's videos of incorrectly calling out of his area and with clownish mechanics.

For his sake and the sake of basketball I sincerely hope he's learned to stop doing this.

I agree with all of this, and I would definitely be having a chat in the locker room afterwards, especially on the first video. He needs to have a more patient whistle and trust his partner who obviously has the right call.

Originally Posted by twocentsworth

This OP video, and the second video posted on page 2 of this thread are CLASSIC examples of why a play is much easier to officiate when the play coming towards an official rather than when it is moving away from an official.

Other than the fact that the calling official was wrong, I have no problem with his mechanics on these two plays. You have to know which 4-5 plays each game require you to sell it...and then SELL IT!

There is a difference between selling a call and looking like an absolute fool, and he is the latter. He would get made fun of around here for signals like that.

Like others have said, if you're going to use silly signals/mechanics like that, you had better be damn good and had better get calls right. In the second video he's looking through about three players when the contact happens.