Toss to start the game

[biz]

I don't love it either, but the thinking was that the table was missing the signal from the lead.

In practice, what usually happens is that the L holds the 3 point attempt signal until the T makes eye contact after the successful hoop which usually happens pretty quickly.

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by biz

I don't love it either, but the thinking was that the table was missing the signal from the lead.

In practice, what usually happens is that the L holds the 3 point attempt signal until the T makes eye contact after the successful hoop which usually happens pretty quickly.

I don't see why it would be any different than in 3-man. The Primary gives prelim and touchdown and the C or T mirrors the touchdown and the Lead never mirrors.

So in 2-man, primary prelims & touchdowns. Trail mirrors touchdown, Lead never mirrors touchdown.

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef

I don't see why it would be any different than in 3-man. The Primary gives prelim and touchdown and the C or T mirrors the touchdown and the Lead never mirrors.

So in 2-man, primary prelims & touchdowns. Trail mirrors touchdown, Lead never mirrors touchdown.

Yeah, but in 3-man, the Lead never signals anything involving a three-point try. In 2-man, the Lead does.

I posted something about this a few weeks ago. As the Trail, I need the Lead to signal three-point trys and makes in his PCA. If the Trail is the only person doing the touchdown signal, and the three-point try was attempted 40 feet from where he is standing, it looks weak. I say don't try to streamline 2-man and 3-man to make them as similar as possible. They are different enough already, keep them that way.

Also, I don't know where these "teachings" come from. My state uses the NFHS book. I do not care if I am told to do something different, I am going to follow the book.

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by seanwestref

Yeah, but in 3-man, the Lead never signals anything involving a three-point try. In 2-man, the Lead does.

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There is no "yeah, but" to what I posted. In 3-man the Lead is not the primary on 3-point shots, I said the primary prelims and the Trail mirrors the touchdown and I said he Lead never mirrors. So in 2-man or 3-man the Trail mirrors the touchdown. In 2-man or 3-man the primary gives prelim and touchdown. In 2-man or 3-man the Lead doesn't mirror the touchdown.

Also, the Lead does prelim in 3-man on fast breaks when the Trail hasn't made it up the court.

[Texref]

In both 2 and 3 person, I will signal attempt but not make as the lead. In 3 person, I'm only doing this in transition and would expect both C and T to pick it up, if they don't, TOUCHDOWN goes up. In 2 person, I pregame that I will not give successful signal on 3-pt try. If for some reason, my T misses the attempt, then I will. No big deal either way.

[Sharpshooternes]

Originally Posted by seanwestref

Yeah, but in 3-man, the Lead never signals anything involving a three-point try. In 2-man, the Lead does.

I posted something about this a few weeks ago. As the Trail, I need the Lead to signal three-point trys and makes in his PCA. If the Trail is the only person doing the touchdown signal, and the three-point try was attempted 40 feet from where he is standing, it looks weak. I say don't try to streamline 2-man and 3-man to make them as similar as possible. They are different enough already, keep them that way.

Also, I don't know where these "teachings" come from. My state uses the NFHS book. I do not care if I am told to do something different, I am going to follow the book.

Yeah it is on page 33 of the officials manual. Lead marks and touchdowns a 3 point attempt and/or make in their primary and trail mirrors. Lead never mirrors trail for this.