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OKREF Tue Feb 12, 2013 07:26pm

Toss to start the game
 
Ace and Dan 12.08.10 - YouTube


Check out the toss and the commentary.

JugglingReferee Tue Feb 12, 2013 07:49pm

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Welpe Tue Feb 12, 2013 09:29pm

A wee bit high. Fast 10 count too. I would love to be in that unit though with their focus on official development.

AremRed Tue Feb 12, 2013 09:46pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Welpe (Post 878897)
A wee bit high. Fast 10 count too. I would love to be in that unit though with their focus on official development.

I thought so too, so I tested it out. According to the counts of the official that you can see in the video (he is not visible the first two seconds), there are 7. I turned off the sound and counted myself, at my speed. I had 8. I used a stopwatch, and got 10 seconds when the official blew his whistle.

deecee Tue Feb 12, 2013 10:17pm

his count was pretty on point I would have been about a half second sooner than him but other than that his count was close to perfect. Also that toss was rough, that's not a good way to toss IMO.

stiffler3492 Tue Feb 12, 2013 11:41pm

What about the travel at about 1:10?

Rich Tue Feb 12, 2013 11:47pm

Say what you want -- it was between 11 and 12 seconds from the time white got possession in the backcourt until the violation was called. I used the YouTube clock, though, no stopwatch.

Rich Tue Feb 12, 2013 11:48pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by deecee (Post 878902)
his count was pretty on point I would have been about a half second sooner than him but other than that his count was close to perfect. Also that toss was rough, that's not a good way to toss IMO.

His toss was perfect if the players were 10 feet tall.

APG Tue Feb 12, 2013 11:52pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rich (Post 878924)
His toss was perfect if the players were 10 feet tall.

I'm more impressed that, with him tossing it that high, that the ball went straight up and straight down.

Scuba_ref Wed Feb 13, 2013 12:39am

Flo was in the house!

bob jenkins Wed Feb 13, 2013 09:09am

Since 90% of the tosses are not high enough, I'd rather see this type.

Welpe Wed Feb 13, 2013 09:12am

Quote:

Originally Posted by seanwestref (Post 878900)
I thought so too, so I tested it out.

I did too. Maybe my count is just slow. ;)

jTheUmp Wed Feb 13, 2013 09:40am

Travel at 1:10? Doesn't look like it to me. Pivot foot is the right foot, which never comes off the floor.

Rich Wed Feb 13, 2013 09:41am

Quote:

Originally Posted by bob jenkins (Post 878959)
Since 90% of the tosses are not high enough, I'd rather see this type.

I like how the people taping couldn't stop laughing after the toss.

Rich Wed Feb 13, 2013 09:53am

With the NCAA telling its officials to use a stop-clock mechanic on OOB calls, there's no reason a JV HS official doesn't do that automatically.

I have no idea who this association gives the OOB call to above the FT line in the frontcourt. I'm still a fan of the L taking the line all the way down and working out there when the ball is near the line. The L didn't move -- I have no idea if he's expected to there.

6:49, L signals a 3 attempt, doesn't signal the make.

Not a whole lot to look at in this 8:30 of basketball, really.


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