Player Position: Start of Game Toss

[Steverz]

For the "start of the game" toss, is there anywhere in the books that states that both players must be of equal distances from the center division line?

In one game I was in (U1 and not administering the toss) I saw one player, while in the center restraining circle half where he was supposed to be, be about a step or so back while the other player, while in his half, was about six inches from the division line. The one coach wanted the player that was standing further out to be moved in.

Now, I was watching another game from the stands and saw the R move a jumper closer to the line so both jumpers would be equal distance from the division line.

Where in the book(s) does it states both players need to be of equal distance from the division line during the opening toss? I can't find that, only the other specifics around the opening toss.

[Nevadaref]

No such requirement. The jumpers merely must be in their own halves of the circle, but don't even need to face any particular direction.

6-3-1 . . .

For any jump ball, each jumper shall have both feet within that half

of the center restraining circle which is farther from his/her basket.

NOTE (following article 8)

NOTE:

During a jump ball, a jumper is not required to face his/her own basket, provided
he/she is in the proper half of the center restraining circle. The jumper is also not required
to jump and attempt to touch the tossed ball. However, if neither jumper touches the ball
it should be tossed again with both jumpers being ordered to jump and try to touch the

ball.

[Toren]

I've seen officials move players back to allow room for the toss, but I've never seen officials move players closer, unless they were outside the circle.

That's a new one for me.

[Steverz]

Exactly! The rule only states that each jumper must be in their half of the center restraining circle. The players need not face each other. The players, initially, do not have to jump but on a re-toss, at least one must jump. Neither players need face a basket. The simply have to be in their half of the circle.

So, I ignored the coach on this one since I did not know of any rule that stated the opponent needed to be the same close distance from the center line as the coaches player was. Of course, the game I was observing, the R was simply wrong to make one of the jumpers move to a point that was equal to his opponent.

Thanks.

[Sco53]

I worked a game at the start of this season where the R made a non jumper move because his feet were straddling the division line. Myth?

[tref]

I'm not carrying the measuring tape in my pocket!!

[Freddy]

Originally Posted by Sco53

Myth?

Billy Mac, calling Billy Mac. The Batphone is ringing for you.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by Sco53

I worked a game at the start of this season where the R made a non jumper move because his feet were straddling the division line. Myth?

I've never heard that one. I do see a few Rs who want to make everyone stand still for the toss, but I've never had one make the playes choose one side of the division line.

But hey, may as well have Billy add it to his list.

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by Freddy

BillyMac, calling BillyMac. The Batphone is ringing for you.

Back in the middle part of the twentieth century, there was an smaller diameter inner circle inside the jump ball circle that we now use. I believe that the rule stated that both jumpers had to have all least one foot in the smaller diameter inner circle.

Steverz's coach, and R, in his original post, must be "old timers".

Freddy: I don't answer the Batphone, but I do respond to the Mythbuster searchlight signal in the clouds.

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by Sco53

I worked a game at the start of this season where the R made a non jumper move because his feet were straddling the division line. Myth?

Yes, it's a myth, and I've seen officials do it, too. I wonder where this crap gets started.

[ga314ref]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

I've never heard that one. I do see a few Rs who want to make everyone stand still for the toss, but I've never had one make the playes choose one side of the division line.

Non-jumpers are not allowed to change positions.

[Mark T. DeNucci, Sr.]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

Back in the middle part of the twentieth century, there was an smaller diameter inner circle inside the jump ball circle that we now use. I believe that the rule stated that both jumpers had to have all least one foot in the smaller diameter inner circle.

Steverz's coach, and R, in his original post, must be "old timers".

Freddy: I don't answer the Batphone, but I do respond to the Mythbuster searchlight signal in the clouds.

It wasn't in the middle 20th Century, but in the late 1970's thru the late80's if my memory is correct. I ain't going to climb up into that attic for this one but I think that once Spring time rolls around I am going to have to bring that stuff down and scan it into this computer.

MTD, Sr.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by ga314ref

Non-jumpers are not allowed to change positions.

It doesn't mean they have to be stationary, and it only applies to the players around the circle.

[APG]

Originally Posted by ga314ref

Non-jumpers are not allowed to change positions.

If they aren't on the circle, they can move all they want.

[Freddy]

Originally Posted by AllPurposeGamer

If they aren't on the circle, they can move all they want.

And if they are on the circle, they can move away from it if they want.
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