Toss to start the game

[APG]

Originally Posted by Rich

His toss was perfect if the players were 10 feet tall.

I'm more impressed that, with him tossing it that high, that the ball went straight up and straight down.

[Scuba_ref]

Flo was in the house!

[bob jenkins]

Since 90% of the tosses are not high enough, I'd rather see this type.

[Rich]

Originally Posted by bob jenkins

Since 90% of the tosses are not high enough, I'd rather see this type.

I like how the people taping couldn't stop laughing after the toss.

[Rich]

With the NCAA telling its officials to use a stop-clock mechanic on OOB calls, there's no reason a JV HS official doesn't do that automatically.

I have no idea who this association gives the OOB call to above the FT line in the frontcourt. I'm still a fan of the L taking the line all the way down and working out there when the ball is near the line. The L didn't move -- I have no idea if he's expected to there.

6:49, L signals a 3 attempt, doesn't signal the make.

Not a whole lot to look at in this 8:30 of basketball, really.

[Tio]

The toss was too high...

The only other comment I would have is that starting so low will be problematic for bigger players. They will have an easier opportunity to steal the toss.

[Welpe]

The other thing I failed to mention, I was guilty of doing this same thing my first year or two. Nice, straight tosses but way too high. Only once or twice did my partner blow it back and there was one I had to blow back myself.

I've gotten quite a bit better at tossing since then but it's still not my favorite.

[Sharpshooternes]

Originally Posted by Tio

The toss was too high...

The only other comment I would have is that starting so low will be problematic for bigger players. They will have an easier opportunity to steal the toss.

It is actually a violation to touch the jump ball before it reaches its peak height.

[stripes2255]

Originally Posted by Rich

With the NCAA telling its officials to use a stop-clock mechanic on OOB calls, there's no reason a JV HS official doesn't do that automatically.

I have no idea who this association gives the OOB call to above the FT line in the frontcourt. I'm still a fan of the L taking the line all the way down and working out there when the ball is near the line. The L didn't move -- I have no idea if he's expected to there..

Concerning the stop-clock mechanic, this year Oregon adopted the optional directional point without the open hand in the air first. Ironically, the same year NCAA emphasizes their officials to use more of the stop clock mechanic?!(Side note, I don't believe this game is played in Oregon)

OOB call-every year our association swaps officials with a neighboring association during preseason tournaments one weekend to strengthen numbers, work with other officials, teams, etc. The neighboring assoc. calls OOB lines in front court, T's primary much like you see on this video. I have considered the pro's and con's to this but am interested in what others think?

[JetMetFan]

Is there some rule that when the guy who threw the toss is in the L he absolutely cannot move from his spot alnog the endline? It looks like he's set in cement.

I'm also trying to figure out why there was a shot-clock reset at the 3:54 mark.

All this for these guys and a shot clock, too. I can only imagine the fun that causes during a JV game.

My hope is some nice, veteran official shows them this clip and goes over the myriad of areas where they need improvement.

Originally Posted by Adam

Why would you blow a toss back for being too high?

Probably because 3.2.1B-4 in the Officials' Manual says the R should "toss the ball slightly higher than either person can jump." Neither of those kids looks like a kangaroo so I'd be inclined to call that toss back

[Rich]

Originally Posted by JetMetFan

Is there some rule that when the guy who threw the toss is in the L he absolutely cannot move from his spot alnog the endline? It looks like he's set in cement.

I'm also trying to figure out why there was a shot-clock reset at the 3:54 mark.

All this for these guys and a shot clock, too. I can only imagine the fun that causes during a JV game.

My hope is some nice, veteran official shows them this clip and goes over the myriad of areas where they need improvement.

To be fair, these are JV guys and I'm guessing they are newer officials. Seems like getting video is the first step to improving some things. Court movement being one of the bigger ones, I'll agree.

[Sharpshooternes]

Originally Posted by JetMetFan

Is there some rule that when the guy who threw the toss is in the L he absolutely cannot move from his spot alnog the endline? It looks like he's set in cement.

I'm also trying to figure out why there was a shot-clock reset at the 3:54 mark.

All this for these guys and a shot clock, too. I can only imagine the fun that causes during a JV game.

My hope is some nice, veteran official shows them this clip and goes over the myriad of areas where they need improvement.



Probably because 3.2.1B-4 in the Officials' Manual says the R should "toss the ball slightly higher than either person can jump." Neither of those kids looks like a kangaroo so I'd be inclined to call that toss back

Does anyone use the mechanic in the book that says if the ball is tipped to the backcourt the non tossing official will become trail and the tosser will become lead? Just curious. We don't. Non tosser always becomes lead.

[biz]

Originally Posted by Rich

6:49, L signals a 3 attempt, doesn't signal the make.

In these parts (MA) we were told 2 or 3 years ago that the L shouldn't signal a successful 3 point FG. Our mechanic is to signal the 3 pt FG attempt if it's in your primary. If the T sees the signal he/she should mirror. If the try is successful only the T should give the "touchdown" signal and the L should only signal if the T didn't see the L's original signal

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by biz

In these parts (MA) we were told 2 or 3 years ago that the L shouldn't signal a successful 3 point FG. Our mechanic is to signal the 3 pt FG attempt if it's in your primary. If the T sees the signal he/she should mirror. If the try is successful only the T should give the "touchdown" signal and the L should only signal if the T didn't see the L's original signal

So they think it's better for the Lead to search to see if the T gives a touchdown signal rather than just the Lead just signalling it from the get go?

Makes no sense to me.