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Old Mon Feb 11, 2013, 03:44pm
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I like the call. However, could you have called RED #44 with a push?
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Old Mon Feb 11, 2013, 04:11pm
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The real foul is on Gold #22 who made no attempt to block out #5. That would have cleaned up the whole mess.

Tough play...
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I think The Beatles wrote a song about this play.

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Old Mon Feb 11, 2013, 04:49pm
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I like the call. However, could you have called RED #44 with a push?
I'm with Johnny on this one!
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Old Mon Feb 11, 2013, 06:15pm
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I'm with Johnny on this one!
I also think this would have been the better call although I think the official got it right if you had to choose between R5 and W45.
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Old Mon Feb 11, 2013, 06:15pm
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I like the call. However, could you have called RED #44 with a push?
Especially with the positioning and look the lead has on the play. There's definitely a forearm across the chest of the ND player, but can't really tell if it was enough to cause that much displacement. Again, the official has the perfect look, gotta trust it.
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Old Mon Feb 11, 2013, 07:31pm
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I liked the call, personally, but I can see why everyone (that is the other team and the announcers) wouldn't like it.
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Especially with the positioning and look the lead has on the play. There's definitely a forearm across the chest of the ND player, but can't really tell if it was enough to cause that much displacement. Again, the official has the perfect look, gotta trust it.
If you're going to look at that, you also need to look at the reverse...what that ND player (#45) was doing as well. I wouldn't exactly call him the victim in that situation with #44. He was behind #44 when the ball was up on the rim and used his arms to reverse the positions....all before the forearm from #44. Not really enough for a foul in my book but no less than was #45 did either.
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Louisville 44 pushes Notre dame 45 back into Louisville 21. Don't know the lead didn't see that shove.

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Old Mon Feb 11, 2013, 10:41pm
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Wisconsin 44 pushes Notre dame 45 back into Wisconsin 21. Don't know the lead didn't see that shove.
Louisville, dude, Louisville.
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Old Mon Feb 11, 2013, 11:49pm
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Louisville, dude, Louisville.
My bad, my bad.
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Old Mon Feb 11, 2013, 10:42pm
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If you're going to look at that, you also need to look at the reverse...what that ND player (#45) was doing as well. I wouldn't exactly call him the victim in that situation with #44. He was behind #44 when the ball was up on the rim and used his arms to reverse the positions....all before the forearm from #44. Not really enough for a foul in my book but no less than was #45 did either.
I agree, probably wasn't clear that I liked the call made in the video and was only responding to a specific address of the ND player getting pushed. While there may be a push, forearm in the chest, there's no doubt a whistle was needed on #45 for the undercut IMO.

Again, any questioning of the call would be highly difficult with the look the lead had on the play.
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I agree, probably wasn't clear that I liked the call made in the video and was only responding to a specific address of the ND player getting pushed. While there may be a push, forearm in the chest, there's no doubt a whistle was needed on #45 for the undercut IMO.

Again, any questioning of the call would be highly difficult with the look the lead had on the play.
The shove by 44 caused the undercut. In normal play I wouldn't get that, however, in this play you can't penalize 45 for getting shoved into 21's path.
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The shove by 44 caused the undercut. In normal play I wouldn't get that, however, in this play you can't penalize 45 for getting shoved into 21's path.
I'm not seeing that. I see 45 jumping back on his own with 44's push being incidental to him going in that direction.

I admit at first I did not like this call but watching it a few more times and I agree with it.
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I'm not seeing that. I see 45 jumping back on his own with 44's push being incidental to him going in that direction.

I admit at first I did not like this call but watching it a few more times and I agree with it.
When I first saw it I thought that also. The shot from under the basket changed my mind. I think that the shove is enough to put 45 into the path. However, I'm not judging the guy. That's a tough call.
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