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JetMetFan Mon Feb 11, 2013 03:05pm

Louisville @ ND, Rich's video request #1
 
Sorry. Getting to these as fast as I can what with work, games and...what's that thing? Oh yeah, sleep getting in the way :)

6:54 second half. Fifth foul on ND player

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maven Mon Feb 11, 2013 03:08pm

What a nut cutter! Did R5 go straight up and W45 back up into him? Or was R5 on W45 before he backed up?

Usually you'd see this go the other way...

Raymond Mon Feb 11, 2013 03:16pm

That's a call I would make. W45 backed into airborne R5. It was inadvertent but most fouls are. I err in favor of protecting airborne players.

Red_Killian Mon Feb 11, 2013 03:35pm

I think this is the correct call.

Johnny Ringo Mon Feb 11, 2013 03:44pm

I like the call. However, could you have called RED #44 with a push?

Tio Mon Feb 11, 2013 04:11pm

The real foul is on Gold #22 who made no attempt to block out #5. That would have cleaned up the whole mess.

Tough play...

Camron Rust Mon Feb 11, 2013 04:25pm

I think The Beatles wrote a song about this play.

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kk13 Mon Feb 11, 2013 04:49pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Johnny Ringo (Post 878517)
I like the call. However, could you have called RED #44 with a push?

I'm with Johnny on this one!

Sharpshooternes Mon Feb 11, 2013 06:15pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by kk13 (Post 878536)
I'm with Johnny on this one!

I also think this would have been the better call although I think the official got it right if you had to choose between R5 and W45.

BLydic Mon Feb 11, 2013 06:15pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Johnny Ringo (Post 878517)
I like the call. However, could you have called RED #44 with a push?

Especially with the positioning and look the lead has on the play. There's definitely a forearm across the chest of the ND player, but can't really tell if it was enough to cause that much displacement. Again, the official has the perfect look, gotta trust it.

Rich Mon Feb 11, 2013 07:31pm

I liked the call, personally, but I can see why everyone (that is the other team and the announcers) wouldn't like it.

Camron Rust Mon Feb 11, 2013 08:04pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by BLydic (Post 878557)
Especially with the positioning and look the lead has on the play. There's definitely a forearm across the chest of the ND player, but can't really tell if it was enough to cause that much displacement. Again, the official has the perfect look, gotta trust it.

If you're going to look at that, you also need to look at the reverse...what that ND player (#45) was doing as well. I wouldn't exactly call him the victim in that situation with #44. He was behind #44 when the ball was up on the rim and used his arms to reverse the positions....all before the forearm from #44. Not really enough for a foul in my book but no less than was #45 did either.

OKREF Mon Feb 11, 2013 10:02pm

Louisville 44 pushes Notre dame 45 back into Louisville 21. Don't know the lead didn't see that shove.

Rich Mon Feb 11, 2013 10:41pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by OKREF (Post 878592)
Wisconsin 44 pushes Notre dame 45 back into Wisconsin 21. Don't know the lead didn't see that shove.

Louisville, dude, Louisville.

BLydic Mon Feb 11, 2013 10:42pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Camron Rust (Post 878570)
If you're going to look at that, you also need to look at the reverse...what that ND player (#45) was doing as well. I wouldn't exactly call him the victim in that situation with #44. He was behind #44 when the ball was up on the rim and used his arms to reverse the positions....all before the forearm from #44. Not really enough for a foul in my book but no less than was #45 did either.

I agree, probably wasn't clear that I liked the call made in the video and was only responding to a specific address of the ND player getting pushed. While there may be a push, forearm in the chest, there's no doubt a whistle was needed on #45 for the undercut IMO.

Again, any questioning of the call would be highly difficult with the look the lead had on the play.


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