Past History with a Coach

[johnny d]

I have different leashes for different coaches based on my past experiences with each of them. If I know a guy is a jackass and isnt going to stop once he gets started or is just going to whine and cry all game long about stupid stuff, I am going to shut him down quick. On the other hand, if the guy hardly ever says a word and coaches his team instead of complaining about officiating all game long, I will tend to give this guy a longer leash with the assumption that there is a good chance we missed something significant to get him fired up.

[VaTerp]

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef

I am most definitely bringing up any past history with a coach to my partners in our pre-game

+1

Originally Posted by rockyroad

Agreed. That's the kind of thing they need to know so that no one is taken by surprise by anything the Coach might say or do...don't need to have the "Man, that came out of nowhere!" "Well, actually..." conversation after something stupid happens.

Indeed.

MDLonghorn- Curious as to your reasoning for NOT mentioning this.

Originally Posted by johnny d

I have different leashes for different coaches based on my past experiences with each of them. If I know a guy is a jackass and isnt going to stop once he gets started or is just going to whine and cry all game long about stupid stuff, I am going to shut him down quick. On the other hand, if the guy hardly ever says a word and coaches his team instead of complaining about officiating all game long, I will tend to give this guy a longer leash with the assumption that there is a good chance we missed something significant to get him fired up.

Exactly. A better and more descriptive version of the point I was making earlier.

[VaTerp]

Update:

Pre-game handshake- I look directly at HC as I'm shaking his hand and he kind of gave me a look like, "Oh $#!%, this guy." He was under the basket with his team for almost the entire warm up period so I don't think he realized who I was until that time.

Game was fairly close and competitive until about mid-way through of 4th quarter. Coach was fine. Very animated with his players but did not say a word to me the entire game. I think he asked one of my partners for a quick explanation after one play but other than that I did not see/hear a single thing directed toward us.

I should have whacked one of his kids with about a minute left but passed. Turned out to be much ado.....

[rockyroad]

But you and your partners were prepared, just in case...it's those times when we are not prepared for something when the sh!t hits the fan! Glad things went well.

[Mark T. DeNucci, Sr.]

First a war story. Years ago when I was officiating women's in the Ohio Comm. Coll. Conf. I officiated a certain school from the OCCC in the NJCAA Regionals and the team got blown out and naturally, according the the HC, it was my fault that her team got blown out. And she made it a point to let me know that I would never work in her conference again. I let the league assignor know what she said. The next year I had her three times at home and three times on the road, .

When young officials come to me with questions about having a history with a coach, I tell them the same thing that many other posters in the thread have already said, officials forget the game as soon as it is over (and some of us forget the game before it is over, ). The problem is that many coaches think that we are always out to get them and never ever forgot. Ask any old timer and he will tell you of coaches that complain about a call he made against them from five years before. It is just part of the job.

MTD, Sr.

[Judtech]

Official: Are we going to have any problems like last game?
Coach: If you call it as poorly as you did last time.

Can't get in trouble for something you didn't say. Glad you were prepped and it went well.

[JetMetFan]

Suff happens but it's always good that your partners know if there's a history.

Three seasons ago I have a BV coach who can be a bit noisy. I called a couple of travels against his team in the first qtr. He wasn't thrilled with one of them and started yelling "that's a horrible call!" Repeatedly. While three feet out of his coaching box. While I'm standing at the division line across from the table. Bang... He and his assistant catch me at halftime and ask why I have him a T since he didn't swear (really?) and why he didn't get a warning.

Ten days later I have the same guy (both were road games). I tell my partner about the previous situation, including the stuff they said about no warning. My partner tells me, "Fine. If you have to warn him, I'll take care of the rest." Midway trough the 2nd qtr. I warn the HC. Two minutes later, my partner finishes the job. That's why we're a team out there.

BTW, that HC and I have gotten along just fine since then to the point where we actually joke with each other during games.

[Rich]

Originally Posted by Mark T. DeNucci, Sr.

First a war story. Years ago when I was officiating women's in the Ohio Comm. Coll. Conf. I officiated a certain school from the OCCC in the NJCAA Regionals and the team got blown out and naturally, according the the HC, it was my fault that her team got blown out. And she made it a point to let me know that I would never work in her conference again. I let the league assignor know what she said. The next year I had her three times at home and three times on the road, .

When young officials come to me with questions about having a history with a coach, I tell them the same thing that many other posters in the thread have already said, officials forget the game as soon as it is over (and some of us forget the game before it is over, ). The problem is that many coaches think that we are always out to get them and never ever forgot. Ask any old timer and he will tell you of coaches that complain about a call he made against them from five years before. It is just part of the job.

MTD, Sr.

There are two lies officials frequently tell:

(1) A technical foul is the same as any other foul.

(2) We forget a game as soon as it's over.

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by Rich

There are two lies officials frequently tell:

(1) A technical foul is the same as any other foul.

(2) We forget a game as soon as it's over.

Actually, a majority of the time I do forget about the game as soon as I leave the premises or my parnter(s) and I arrive home from our drive.

[Rich]

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef

Actually, a majority of the time I do forget about the game as soon as I leave the premises or my parnter(s) and I arrive home from our drive.

But clearly you don't forget, or you wouldn't be able to bring up past history in a subsequent pregame as you mentioned above.

My point is simple. I remember. Maybe not every detail. And that's good, because it forces me to be careful that I treat even the biggest d-bag like I need to - like today's another day. Prepared for, but not looking for a problem.