The Official Forum  

Go Back   The Official Forum > Basketball
Which coach? Which coach?
Register FAQ Community Calendar Today's Posts Search

Reply
Page 1 of 2 1 2
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Rate Thread Display Modes
  #1 (permalink)  
Old Mon Jan 28, 2013, 11:59pm
Official Forum Member
  
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: Not where I was previously
Posts: 1,060
Which coach?
Been awhile. Here is the question
Does it matter which coach stands, so long as only that one coach is standing? Had a HC who was pregnant and told us prior to the game that she would be sitting but her Assistant Coach would be standing. I said NP, and the standing coach was fine. Had a couple of calls she didn't like and said some things, asked some questions but no big deal.
After the game one of my partners mentioned that he didn't think it was permissible. We actually couldn't find anything in 'The Book' one way or other. Any help? We bet dinner on it, so it's serious!
Reply With Quote
  #2 (permalink)  
Old Tue Jan 29, 2013, 12:11am
APG APG is offline
Official Forum Member
  
Join Date: Apr 2007
Posts: 5,889
The rule book is clear...if you go by the book, only the head coach can use the coaching box to stand. The assistant coach is not the head coach.
__________________
Chaos isn't a pit. Chaos is a ladder. Many who try to climb it fail and never get to try again. The fall breaks them. And some, given a chance to climb, they refuse. They cling to the realm, or the gods, or love. Illusions.

Only the ladder is real. The climb is all there is.
Reply With Quote
  #3 (permalink)  
Old Tue Jan 29, 2013, 12:25am
Adam's Avatar
Keeper of the HAMMER
  
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: MST
Posts: 27,190
The coach who stands is the HC for that game. That is the coach to whom I will respond. If the coach paid to be the HC wishes to retain the privileges of the HC, then she needs to keep her AC seated. The book doesn't define the HC, but some states may do that.
__________________
Sprinkles are for winners.
Reply With Quote
  #4 (permalink)  
Old Tue Jan 29, 2013, 07:31am
Esteemed Forum Member
  
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Connecticut
Posts: 23,406
What's It Gonna Be Boy ...
Whose request for a timeout will you grant? The pregnant seated coach, or the standing coach? Who are you going to charge the direct technical foul to when a player dunks during the pregame? Who are you going to charge an indirect technical foul to when a team member on the bench mouths off to an official?
__________________
"For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life." (John 3:16)

“I was in prison and you came to visit me.” (Matthew 25:36)
Last edited by BillyMac; Tue Jan 29, 2013 at 07:55am.
Reply With Quote
  #5 (permalink)  
Old Tue Jan 29, 2013, 09:46am
Courageous When Prudent
  
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Hampton Roads, VA
Posts: 14,957
Quote:
Originally Posted by APG View Post
The rule book is clear...if you go by the book, only the head coach can use the coaching box to stand. The assistant coach is not the head coach.
AC is the head coach if that's who's standing for the entire game. Do you realize one of your conference's has a team that does this? They did it all the way through their state championship title last year.
__________________
A-hole formerly known as BNR
Reply With Quote
  #6 (permalink)  
Old Tue Jan 29, 2013, 09:47am
Courageous When Prudent
  
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Hampton Roads, VA
Posts: 14,957
Quote:
Originally Posted by BillyMac View Post
Whose request for a timeout will you grant? The pregnant seated coach, or the standing coach? Who are you going to charge the direct technical foul to when a player dunks during the pregame? Who are you going to charge an indirect technical foul to when a team member on the bench mouths off to an official?
Whom do you think?
__________________
A-hole formerly known as BNR
Reply With Quote
  #7 (permalink)  
Old Tue Jan 29, 2013, 11:16am
Official Forum Member
  
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: Katy, Texas
Posts: 8,033
Just make it clear to her and him that for the purposes of all rules, HE is the head coach - if they are good with that, then play on.
__________________
I was thinking of the immortal words of Socrates, who said, 'I drank what?'”

West Houston Mike
Reply With Quote
  #8 (permalink)  
Old Tue Jan 29, 2013, 11:42am
certified Hot Mom tester
  
Join Date: Aug 1999
Location: only in my own mind, such as it is
Posts: 12,918
Quote:
Originally Posted by BillyMac View Post
Who are you going to charge the direct technical foul to when a player dunks during the pregame?
If it's a girls game, nobody. I'd be too stunned.
__________________
Yom HaShoah
Reply With Quote
  #9 (permalink)  
Old Tue Jan 29, 2013, 12:27pm
Official Forum Member
  
Join Date: Aug 2012
Location: A little east of there.
Posts: 650
Quote:
Originally Posted by Adam View Post
The coach who stands is the HC for that game. That is the coach to whom I will respond. If the coach paid to be the HC wishes to retain the privileges of the HC, then she needs to keep her AC seated. The book doesn't define the HC, but some states may do that.
As far as I'm concerned, the HC is the coach that attends my pre-game meeting.

That's who gets to stand in the box and who gets to ask me questions and call timeouts, etc.
Reply With Quote
  #10 (permalink)  
Old Tue Jan 29, 2013, 12:32pm
Official Forum Member
  
Join Date: Aug 1999
Posts: 18,200
Quote:
Originally Posted by #olderthanilook View Post
As far as I'm concerned, the HC is the coach that attends my pre-game meeting.

That's who gets to stand in the box and who gets to ask me questions and call timeouts, etc.
There's some case play (or interp) regarding "co-head coaches". Apply that reasoning.
Reply With Quote
  #11 (permalink)  
Old Tue Jan 29, 2013, 01:02pm
Adam's Avatar
Keeper of the HAMMER
  
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: MST
Posts: 27,190
Quote:
Originally Posted by #olderthanilook View Post
As far as I'm concerned, the HC is the coach that attends my pre-game meeting.

That's who gets to stand in the box and who gets to ask me questions and call timeouts, etc.
If I tried enforcing that around here, I'd be 'that guy.' Even worse, as there is zero rule support for it.
__________________
Sprinkles are for winners.
Last edited by Adam; Tue Jan 29, 2013 at 01:17pm.
Reply With Quote
  #12 (permalink)  
Old Tue Jan 29, 2013, 05:48pm
Official Forum Member
  
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: Not where I was previously
Posts: 1,060
Quote:
Originally Posted by BadNewsRef View Post
AC is the head coach if that's who's standing for the entire game. Do you realize one of your conference's has a team that does this? They did it all the way through their state championship title last year.
What team was that? I heard Martinsville used to do that.
Reply With Quote
  #13 (permalink)  
Old Tue Jan 29, 2013, 05:50pm
Official Forum Member
  
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: Not where I was previously
Posts: 1,060
Quote:
Originally Posted by bob jenkins View Post
There's some case play (or interp) regarding "co-head coaches". Apply that reasoning.
I couldn't find the case but wasn't for lack of looking! Any direction?
There is food involved, this is important!
Reply With Quote
  #14 (permalink)  
Old Tue Jan 29, 2013, 06:07pm
Esteemed Forum Member
  
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Connecticut
Posts: 23,406
Got Better Things To Do ??? Can't Be Bothered ???
Quote:
Originally Posted by #olderthanilook View Post
As far as I'm concerned, the HC is the coach that attends my pre-game meeting.
Not here in the Land of Steady Habits. Some head coaches refuse to attend the pregame meeting, in fact, we have a special guideline for this specific situation:

Captains-Head Coaches-Officials pre-game meeting should occur prior to start of game. If the head coach
refuses to attend the meeting, notify Board Commissioner, who will notify the school athletic
director and CIAC.
__________________
"For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life." (John 3:16)

“I was in prison and you came to visit me.” (Matthew 25:36)
Reply With Quote
  #15 (permalink)  
Old Tue Jan 29, 2013, 07:51pm
certified Hot Mom tester
  
Join Date: Aug 1999
Location: only in my own mind, such as it is
Posts: 12,918
Quote:
Originally Posted by bob jenkins View Post
There's some case play (or interp) regarding "conehead coaches". Apply that reasoning.
Fixed it for ya'.
__________________
Yom HaShoah
Reply With Quote
Reply
Page 1 of 2 1 2

Bookmarks

« Previous Thread | Next Thread »

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts
BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Irate Coach - First time flagging a coach PocketSidewalk Football 15 Fri Oct 14, 2011 12:40pm
Help with unruly coach - Coach out of dugout paustin Baseball 6 Sat May 15, 2010 10:12am
Coach goes after visiting coach texaspaul Basketball 2 Mon Jan 14, 2008 10:17pm
Bad coach, good coach BuggBob Softball 21 Wed Jul 11, 2007 06:54pm
Foul B1 , T on coach, another T and coach exits jritchie Basketball 15 Wed Nov 08, 2006 09:02pm


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 11:59am.

The Official Forum - Archive - Top


Search Engine Friendly URLs by vBSEO 3.3.0 RC1