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Judtech Mon Jan 28, 2013 11:59pm

Which coach?
 
Been awhile. Here is the question
Does it matter which coach stands, so long as only that one coach is standing? Had a HC who was pregnant and told us prior to the game that she would be sitting but her Assistant Coach would be standing. I said NP, and the standing coach was fine. Had a couple of calls she didn't like and said some things, asked some questions but no big deal.
After the game one of my partners mentioned that he didn't think it was permissible. We actually couldn't find anything in 'The Book' one way or other. Any help? We bet dinner on it, so it's serious!

APG Tue Jan 29, 2013 12:11am

The rule book is clear...if you go by the book, only the head coach can use the coaching box to stand. The assistant coach is not the head coach.

Adam Tue Jan 29, 2013 12:25am

The coach who stands is the HC for that game. That is the coach to whom I will respond. If the coach paid to be the HC wishes to retain the privileges of the HC, then she needs to keep her AC seated. The book doesn't define the HC, but some states may do that.

BillyMac Tue Jan 29, 2013 07:31am

What's It Gonna Be Boy ...
 
Whose request for a timeout will you grant? The pregnant seated coach, or the standing coach? Who are you going to charge the direct technical foul to when a player dunks during the pregame? Who are you going to charge an indirect technical foul to when a team member on the bench mouths off to an official?

Raymond Tue Jan 29, 2013 09:46am

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Originally Posted by APG (Post 875220)
The rule book is clear...if you go by the book, only the head coach can use the coaching box to stand. The assistant coach is not the head coach.

AC is the head coach if that's who's standing for the entire game. Do you realize one of your conference's has a team that does this? They did it all the way through their state championship title last year.

Raymond Tue Jan 29, 2013 09:47am

Quote:

Originally Posted by BillyMac (Post 875261)
Whose request for a timeout will you grant? The pregnant seated coach, or the standing coach? Who are you going to charge the direct technical foul to when a player dunks during the pregame? Who are you going to charge an indirect technical foul to when a team member on the bench mouths off to an official?

Whom do you think?

MD Longhorn Tue Jan 29, 2013 11:16am

Just make it clear to her and him that for the purposes of all rules, HE is the head coach - if they are good with that, then play on.

Mark Padgett Tue Jan 29, 2013 11:42am

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Originally Posted by BillyMac (Post 875261)
Who are you going to charge the direct technical foul to when a player dunks during the pregame?

If it's a girls game, nobody. I'd be too stunned. :eek:

#olderthanilook Tue Jan 29, 2013 12:27pm

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Originally Posted by Adam (Post 875223)
The coach who stands is the HC for that game. That is the coach to whom I will respond. If the coach paid to be the HC wishes to retain the privileges of the HC, then she needs to keep her AC seated. The book doesn't define the HC, but some states may do that.

As far as I'm concerned, the HC is the coach that attends my pre-game meeting.

That's who gets to stand in the box and who gets to ask me questions and call timeouts, etc.

bob jenkins Tue Jan 29, 2013 12:32pm

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Originally Posted by #olderthanilook (Post 875400)
As far as I'm concerned, the HC is the coach that attends my pre-game meeting.

That's who gets to stand in the box and who gets to ask me questions and call timeouts, etc.

There's some case play (or interp) regarding "co-head coaches". Apply that reasoning.

Adam Tue Jan 29, 2013 01:02pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by #olderthanilook (Post 875400)
As far as I'm concerned, the HC is the coach that attends my pre-game meeting.

That's who gets to stand in the box and who gets to ask me questions and call timeouts, etc.

If I tried enforcing that around here, I'd be 'that guy.' Even worse, as there is zero rule support for it.

Judtech Tue Jan 29, 2013 05:48pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef (Post 875301)
AC is the head coach if that's who's standing for the entire game. Do you realize one of your conference's has a team that does this? They did it all the way through their state championship title last year.

What team was that? I heard Martinsville used to do that.

Judtech Tue Jan 29, 2013 05:50pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by bob jenkins (Post 875403)
There's some case play (or interp) regarding "co-head coaches". Apply that reasoning.

I couldn't find the case but wasn't for lack of looking! Any direction?
There is food involved, this is important!

BillyMac Tue Jan 29, 2013 06:07pm

Got Better Things To Do ??? Can't Be Bothered ???
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by #olderthanilook (Post 875400)
As far as I'm concerned, the HC is the coach that attends my pre-game meeting.

Not here in the Land of Steady Habits. Some head coaches refuse to attend the pregame meeting, in fact, we have a special guideline for this specific situation:

Captains-Head Coaches-Officials pre-game meeting should occur prior to start of game. If the head coach
refuses to attend the meeting, notify Board Commissioner, who will notify the school athletic
director and CIAC.

Mark Padgett Tue Jan 29, 2013 07:51pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by bob jenkins (Post 875403)
There's some case play (or interp) regarding "conehead coaches". Apply that reasoning.

Fixed it for ya'. :D


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