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Old Fri Jan 25, 2013, 09:35am
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So last night HS boys. I am trail, A1 going for layup B2 tries to block shot, B2 slaps backboard pretty hard but not so hard that it shakes rim or causes ball to not go in. He misses layup. Coach wants a T. I say coach it isn't a technical. YES IT IS. Coach it isn't. I have seen it called and you know it is a rule. He called a timeout and wanted to ask me about it.

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I think this is a highly misinterpreted rule. How about where you are at?

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Old Fri Jan 25, 2013, 09:43am
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Yep, I hear the same thing here every time it happens.
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Old Fri Jan 25, 2013, 09:47am
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I think this is a highly misinterpreted rule. How about where you are at?
Not so much.
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Old Fri Jan 25, 2013, 09:55am
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Most Coaches don't know this rule and many others. As long as the player makes an attempt to block the shot we have nothing.

At least the coach asked for a T and not a goaltend.
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Old Fri Jan 25, 2013, 09:58am
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Most Coaches don't know this rule and many others. As long as the player makes an attempt to block the shot we have nothing.

At least the coach asked for a T and not a goaltend.
I think he even said something about that also.
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Old Fri Jan 25, 2013, 10:09am
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Haha... you gave him too much credit in your OP.

You did the right thing. I have been in the same boat and my response was: "Coach, by rule it is a legal play if the defender is attempting to block a shot." At that point, my dialog ends.
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Old Fri Jan 25, 2013, 10:09am
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10.3.4 SITUATION:

A1 tries for a goal, and (a) B1 jumps and attempts to block the shot but instead slaps or strikes the backboard and the ball goes into the basket; or (b) B1 vibrates the ring as a result of pulling on the net and the ball does not enter the basket.

RULING: In (a) legal and the basket counts; and (b) a technical foul is charged to B1 and there is no basket.

COMMENT: The purpose of the rule is to penalize intentional contact with the backboard while a shot or try is involved or placing a hand on the backboard to gain an advantage. A player who strikes either backboard so forcefully it cannot be ignored because it is an attempt to draw attention to the player, or a means of venting frustration may be assessed a technical foul pursuant to Rule 10-3-6.
Why would we not score the goal in (b) if the try is successful? By not counting the score, wouldn't we be kind of rewarding B for committing the Technical foul?
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Old Fri Jan 25, 2013, 10:16am
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Why would we not score the goal in (b) if the try is successful? By not counting the score, wouldn't we be kind of rewarding B for committing the Technical foul?
Read b again.
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Old Fri Jan 25, 2013, 10:17am
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Old Fri Jan 25, 2013, 10:19am
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Most Coaches don't know this rule and many others.
I think at the varsity level most coaches do know the rule. Maybe at lower levels the misconception is more prevalent. I haven't had a varsity coach complain about this in a very long time.
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Old Fri Jan 25, 2013, 10:20am
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Coaches ask for a goaltend because in the NBA, it's goaltending if a defender vibrates the rim, net, or backboard so that it causes the ball to make an unnatural bounce...and yes, I've seen this actually occur.

As to my area, I've only seen the play occur once, and told the coach why it wasn't anything...he accepted the answer without much argument.
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Old Fri Jan 25, 2013, 10:29am
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When I was in high school, we had a referee call a T for touching the backboard when a player trapped the ball against the backboard while blocking a shot (without actually touching the backboard).
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Old Fri Jan 25, 2013, 10:54am
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I think at the varsity level most coaches do know the rule. Maybe at lower levels the misconception is more prevalent. I haven't had a varsity coach complain about this in a very long time.
Varsity game this was.
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Old Fri Jan 25, 2013, 11:08am
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So last night HS boys. I am trail, A1 going for layup B2 tries to block shot, B2 slaps backboard pretty hard but not so hard that it shakes rim or causes ball to not go in. He misses layup. Coach wants a T. I say coach it isn't a technical. YES IT IS. Coach it isn't. I have seen it called and you know it is a rule. He called a timeout and wanted to ask me about it.

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I think this is a highly misinterpreted rule. How about where you are at?
It's never misinterpreted in games I work. Once explained the rule to a complaining, a-hole AAU coach from Texas whose response was "I don't care what the rule is".
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Varsity game this was.
Had an entire varsity team (HC, ACs, players, trainer, bus driver) stand and signal for a T on a play like this. I gave them a timeout.
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