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OKREF Fri Jan 25, 2013 09:35am
Slapping Backboard
 
So last night HS boys. I am trail, A1 going for layup B2 tries to block shot, B2 slaps backboard pretty hard but not so hard that it shakes rim or causes ball to not go in. He misses layup. Coach wants a T. I say coach it isn't a technical. YES IT IS. Coach it isn't. I have seen it called and you know it is a rule. He called a timeout and wanted to ask me about it.

10-3-4

I think this is a highly misinterpreted rule. How about where you are at?

mj Fri Jan 25, 2013 09:43am
Yep, I hear the same thing here every time it happens.

bob jenkins Fri Jan 25, 2013 09:47am
Quote:
Originally Posted by OKREF (Post 874331)
I think this is a highly misinterpreted rule. How about where you are at?
Not so much.

Tio Fri Jan 25, 2013 09:55am
Most Coaches don't know this rule and many others. As long as the player makes an attempt to block the shot we have nothing.

At least the coach asked for a T and not a goaltend.

OKREF Fri Jan 25, 2013 09:58am
Quote:
Originally Posted by Tio (Post 874336)
Most Coaches don't know this rule and many others. As long as the player makes an attempt to block the shot we have nothing.

At least the coach asked for a T and not a goaltend.
I think he even said something about that also.

Tio Fri Jan 25, 2013 10:09am
Haha... you gave him too much credit in your OP.

You did the right thing. I have been in the same boat and my response was: "Coach, by rule it is a legal play if the defender is attempting to block a shot." At that point, my dialog ends.

jTheUmp Fri Jan 25, 2013 10:09am
Casebook play
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10.3.4 SITUATION:

A1 tries for a goal, and (a) B1 jumps and attempts to block the shot but instead slaps or strikes the backboard and the ball goes into the basket; or (b) B1 vibrates the ring as a result of pulling on the net and the ball does not enter the basket.

RULING: In (a) legal and the basket counts; and (b) a technical foul is charged to B1 and there is no basket.

COMMENT: The purpose of the rule is to penalize intentional contact with the backboard while a shot or try is involved or placing a hand on the backboard to gain an advantage. A player who strikes either backboard so forcefully it cannot be ignored because it is an attempt to draw attention to the player, or a means of venting frustration may be assessed a technical foul pursuant to Rule 10-3-6.
Why would we not score the goal in (b) if the try is successful? By not counting the score, wouldn't we be kind of rewarding B for committing the Technical foul?

Adam Fri Jan 25, 2013 10:16am
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Originally Posted by jTheUmp (Post 874343)
Casebook play


Why would we not score the goal in (b) if the try is successful? By not counting the score, wouldn't we be kind of rewarding B for committing the Technical foul?
Read b again.

jTheUmp Fri Jan 25, 2013 10:17am
Sigh...

Note to self:
Do Not Post Until Caffeine Kicks In.

Smitty Fri Jan 25, 2013 10:19am
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Originally Posted by Tio (Post 874336)
Most Coaches don't know this rule and many others.
I think at the varsity level most coaches do know the rule. Maybe at lower levels the misconception is more prevalent. I haven't had a varsity coach complain about this in a very long time.

APG Fri Jan 25, 2013 10:20am
Coaches ask for a goaltend because in the NBA, it's goaltending if a defender vibrates the rim, net, or backboard so that it causes the ball to make an unnatural bounce...and yes, I've seen this actually occur.

As to my area, I've only seen the play occur once, and told the coach why it wasn't anything...he accepted the answer without much argument.

Eastshire Fri Jan 25, 2013 10:29am
When I was in high school, we had a referee call a T for touching the backboard when a player trapped the ball against the backboard while blocking a shot (without actually touching the backboard).

OKREF Fri Jan 25, 2013 10:54am
Quote:
Originally Posted by Smitty (Post 874346)
I think at the varsity level most coaches do know the rule. Maybe at lower levels the misconception is more prevalent. I haven't had a varsity coach complain about this in a very long time.
Varsity game this was.

Raymond Fri Jan 25, 2013 11:08am
Quote:
Originally Posted by OKREF (Post 874331)
So last night HS boys. I am trail, A1 going for layup B2 tries to block shot, B2 slaps backboard pretty hard but not so hard that it shakes rim or causes ball to not go in. He misses layup. Coach wants a T. I say coach it isn't a technical. YES IT IS. Coach it isn't. I have seen it called and you know it is a rule. He called a timeout and wanted to ask me about it.

10-3-4

I think this is a highly misinterpreted rule. How about where you are at?
It's never misinterpreted in games I work. Once explained the rule to a complaining, a-hole AAU coach from Texas whose response was "I don't care what the rule is".

Adam Fri Jan 25, 2013 11:09am
Quote:
Originally Posted by OKREF (Post 874359)
Varsity game this was.
Had an entire varsity team (HC, ACs, players, trainer, bus driver) stand and signal for a T on a play like this. I gave them a timeout.


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