The 3-person battle continues

[Kingsman1288]

Originally Posted by rockyroad

As for the coaches being against it...they just don't want to have their star players picking up fouls that the third set of eyes would be catching. It means they would have to teach proper defense, proper screens, etc., etc...again, a stupid and selfish reason.

This. I had a game last week (3 person) where a team's star player fouled out. According to the coach, he never fouls out and our crew changed the game. Two or three of his fouls were off ball stuff we never would have gotten in a 2 person game. Unfortunately it's back to 2 person tonight for me. 3 person still is not widely used here although more schools have adopted it this season.

[just another ref]

For the guys who advocate a different approach with a two man crew, setting certain screens in potentially dead areas, what is it that you're doing that you don't want the officials to see?

[rockyroad]

Originally Posted by just another ref

For the guys who advocate a different approach with a two man crew, setting certain screens in potentially dead areas, what is it that you're doing that you don't want the officials to see?

I don't think anyone is advocating it...but like tome gun said, there are dead spots in two man coverage and coaches take advantage of that knowledge.

[just another ref]

Originally Posted by rockyroad

I don't think anyone is advocating it...but like tome gun said, there are dead spots in two man coverage and coaches take advantage of that knowledge.

There are dead spots in the paint when large numbers of bodies are packed in there at times, so let's go nuts when that happens, guys.

I find the whole concept dirty.

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by just another ref

There are dead spots in the paint when large numbers of bodies are packed in there at times, so let's go nuts when that happens, guys.

I find the whole concept dirty.

And far be it from a coach or player to do anything dirty.

[just another ref]

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef

And far be it from a coach or player to do anything dirty.

Right. We should get this line published somewhere.

[bowlingref]

We get $ 5.00 extra for working a varsity girls game with two people. Two private schools are the only ones that do this. One of the coaches got on me about a non call the other night and my reply was, tell your A/D that is what he gets for not coming off the extra $$$$$ to have 3 refs on the floor.

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by rockyroad

I don't think anyone is advocating it...but like tome gun said, there are dead spots in two man coverage and coaches take advantage of that knowledge.

It's not only specific spots, it's general coverage.

If all fouls were seen with 3 officials, then maybe only 2/3 of the fouls are seen with 2 officials. So, "play more agressive" and you'll be able to commit 7 fouls before you get called for 5.

(The math and logic isn't quite right, of course, but the general concept is.0

[rockyroad]

Originally Posted by bob jenkins

It's not only specific spots, it's general coverage.

If all fouls were seen with 3 officials, then maybe only 2/3 of the fouls are seen with 2 officials. So, "play more agressive" and you'll be able to commit 7 fouls before you get called for 5.

(The math and logic isn't quite right, of course, but the general concept is.0

Easy now Bob...you are just being dirty now.

[just another ref]

For the coaches benefit, (can't believe I said that) putting any faith in a blanket concept such as this one has large potential to break your heart. Depending on a variety of factors, this 2 man crew, may call more/tighter and yes, possibly even a better game overall than that 3 man crew.

[rockyroad]

Originally Posted by just another ref

For the coaches benefit, (can't believe I said that) putting any faith in a blanket concept such as this one has large potential to break your heart. Depending on a variety of factors, this 2 man crew, may call more/tighter and yes, possibly even a better game overall than that 3 man crew.

Of course.

And then the coaches and players adjust.