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Old Thu Jan 17, 2013, 02:53pm
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I saw a discussion about this on a sports message board. I clicked on the link and watched the video expecting to see something much more vicious.

What do you guys think?

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Old Thu Jan 17, 2013, 02:57pm
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Looks like a regular foul to me. I did not see a "stare" or something specific that tells me something else needed to be done. I even like how the official stayed with the play. Now I would not have likely had much dialog with the coach as they are going to attend to the player.

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Old Thu Jan 17, 2013, 03:01pm
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I think there was a hard foul, but not an intentional foul. And A1 hurt his ankle, something that might have happened even if he didn't get fouled.
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Old Thu Jan 17, 2013, 03:03pm
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I have no problem with not calling an intentional foul.

I have a problem with the official that told the player to help the other player up.
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Old Thu Jan 17, 2013, 03:09pm
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I was at that game. I thought that the foul was intentional due to excessive contact when viewed live. However I will admit that on video it doesn't look as bad. You must be crusing around Mosports.com I spoke with the writer of the article after it happened and he thought that after the foul the one player "stared down" the other player on the floor but I did not see this.

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Old Thu Jan 17, 2013, 04:04pm
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Intentional would never cross my mind based on this video.
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Old Thu Jan 17, 2013, 04:15pm
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Intentional would never cross my mind based on this video.
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B1 fouls A1 while unsuccessfully trying to knock the ball from A1's hands during a try for goal. Every day play. Every day foul.

Unfortunately for A1, he apparently rolls his ankle when he lands.

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Old Thu Jan 17, 2013, 04:33pm
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Looks like a regular foul to me. I did not see a "stare" or something specific that tells me something else needed to be done. I even like how the official stayed with the play. Now I would not have likely had much dialog with the coach as they are going to attend to the player.

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Agreed on all points. There is.no need to escort the coach to his player.
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Old Thu Jan 17, 2013, 07:11pm
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If any of my assigners saw this video and I had called an intentional, I'd have plenty of Fridays off.
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Old Fri Jan 18, 2013, 09:52am
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Agreed on all points. There is.no need to escort the coach to his player.
I believe there was a conversation going on there. I know I heard him say this is exactally what happened last year. The Coach was ejected last year during this same tournament vs. the same opponent which I think started with a hard foul agaist his player.

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I believe there was a conversation going on there. I know I heard him say this is exactally what happened last year. The Coach was ejected last year during this same tournament vs. the same opponent which I think started with a hard foul agaist his player.
When a coach is beckoned to tend to an injured player, that is what he should do. If he wants to talk to me about the play, it can wait. I'm nowhere near the player.
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Old Fri Jan 18, 2013, 10:07am
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Nothing to indicate an intentional foul should be called.
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Old Fri Jan 18, 2013, 10:59am
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When a coach is beckoned to tend to an injured player, that is what he should do. If he wants to talk to me about the play, it can wait. I'm nowhere near the player.
I agree with everything you are saying. I was just pointing out what happened, not what I believe should happen.
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I agree with everything you are saying. I was just pointing out what happened, not what I believe should happen.
Fair enough, but the story of what happened is precisely why we don't escort them to their player.
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Old Fri Jan 18, 2013, 11:14am
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When a coach is beckoned to tend to an injured player, that is what he should do. If he wants to talk to me about the play, it can wait. I'm nowhere near the player.
I learned that lesson this year in a game. Not only did the coach yell at me and a member of my crew while attending to his injured player, daddy (I didn't know it was him at the time) was standing over the situation and popped off too.

During post game discussion, I brought up the sitch and told my crew the only thing for us to learn from that sitch was to make sure we aren't anywhere near the player/coach/medical staff while they are attending to the player. That way, if something inappropriate is said, everyone hears it because the coach has to make a sizable effort to get near us and/or be heard.
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