I don't see a problem

[JRutledge]

Looks like a regular foul to me. I did not see a "stare" or something specific that tells me something else needed to be done. I even like how the official stayed with the play. Now I would not have likely had much dialog with the coach as they are going to attend to the player.

Peace

[jeremy341a]

I was at that game. I thought that the foul was intentional due to excessive contact when viewed live. However I will admit that on video it doesn't look as bad. You must be crusing around Mosports.com I spoke with the writer of the article after it happened and he thought that after the foul the one player "stared down" the other player on the floor but I did not see this.

[just another ref]

Intentional would never cross my mind based on this video.

[#olderthanilook]

Originally Posted by just another ref

Intentional would never cross my mind based on this video.

+1

B1 fouls A1 while unsuccessfully trying to knock the ball from A1's hands during a try for goal. Every day play. Every day foul.

Unfortunately for A1, he apparently rolls his ankle when he lands.

Line 'em up. We're shooting two.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

Looks like a regular foul to me. I did not see a "stare" or something specific that tells me something else needed to be done. I even like how the official stayed with the play. Now I would not have likely had much dialog with the coach as they are going to attend to the player.

Peace

Agreed on all points. There is.no need to escort the coach to his player.

[jeremy341a]

Originally Posted by Adam

Agreed on all points. There is.no need to escort the coach to his player.

I believe there was a conversation going on there. I know I heard him say this is exactally what happened last year. The Coach was ejected last year during this same tournament vs. the same opponent which I think started with a hard foul agaist his player.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by jeremy341a

I believe there was a conversation going on there. I know I heard him say this is exactally what happened last year. The Coach was ejected last year during this same tournament vs. the same opponent which I think started with a hard foul agaist his player.

When a coach is beckoned to tend to an injured player, that is what he should do. If he wants to talk to me about the play, it can wait. I'm nowhere near the player.

[OKREF]

Nothing to indicate an intentional foul should be called.

[jeremy341a]

Originally Posted by Adam

When a coach is beckoned to tend to an injured player, that is what he should do. If he wants to talk to me about the play, it can wait. I'm nowhere near the player.

I agree with everything you are saying. I was just pointing out what happened, not what I believe should happen.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by jeremy341a

I agree with everything you are saying. I was just pointing out what happened, not what I believe should happen.

Fair enough, but the story of what happened is precisely why we don't escort them to their player.

[#olderthanilook]

Originally Posted by Adam

When a coach is beckoned to tend to an injured player, that is what he should do. If he wants to talk to me about the play, it can wait. I'm nowhere near the player.

I learned that lesson this year in a game. Not only did the coach yell at me and a member of my crew while attending to his injured player, daddy (I didn't know it was him at the time) was standing over the situation and popped off too.

During post game discussion, I brought up the sitch and told my crew the only thing for us to learn from that sitch was to make sure we aren't anywhere near the player/coach/medical staff while they are attending to the player. That way, if something inappropriate is said, everyone hears it because the coach has to make a sizable effort to get near us and/or be heard.

[Adam]

Did you ring him up?

[Brad]

Not intentional at all ... and the "stare down" only happened in the mind of the coach.

When their players get injured, coaches are likely to want an intentional/flagrant, but regular fouls can result in injuries and regular fouls can "look bad", but it does not make them rise to the level of an intentional or flagrant.

The referee communicates this well, by walking aimlessly around the court with his fist in the air for a full 10 seconds — the universal officiating signal for "I have a foul, but it is not intentional".