Coaching Box

[Adam]

I rarely have a coach say anything other than, "Oh, sorry."

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by Adam

I rarely have a coach say anything other than, "Oh, sorry."

You would think that would be the response. But when the response is, "Come on" when I could just T you by rule, seems silly. Even at the so called college level they were wanting coaches to stay in the darn box. I understand it is low priority, but telling you when nothing is going on is the best way to comply I would think.

Peace

[Pantherdreams]

As previously stated most coaches seem to move back in line because they were not aware/ concerned with where they were and once you are they adjust. Other reasons coaches get upset:

1) They feel like if they are doing nothing wrong, the are therefore confused when they are being addressed like the box is more of social convention then a rule.

2) Generally they are upset at some other facet of the game (you, their kids, the table, etc) and then become upset with you about worrying about something 'not on the floor" when that is where they feel your attention should be.

3) There is an association with it being punitive. At their work place unless there is something they are supposed to be doing in a certain place or time no one comes around to "tell" them where to go. WHen you are directed "to move along", "get back to work", "not park there", "report to the office" etc. in the adult world having to be told or made to go somewhere is generally not a pleasant or positive experience. So they feel like being made to go stand somewhere other then where they are standing is punitive.

Overall though I don't see this as a big issue in games we do.

[Sharpshooternes]

Originally Posted by Pantherdreams

As previously stated most coaches seem to move back in line because they were not aware/ concerned with where they were and once you are they adjust. Other reasons coaches get upset:

1) They feel like if they are doing nothing wrong, the are therefore confused when they are being addressed like the box is more of social convention then a rule.

2) Generally they are upset at some other facet of the game (you, their kids, the table, etc) and then become upset with you about worrying about something 'not on the floor" when that is where they feel your attention should be.

3) There is an association with it being punitive. At their work place unless there is something they are supposed to be doing in a certain place or time no one comes around to "tell" them where to go. WHen you are directed "to move along", "get back to work", "not park there", "report to the office" etc. in the adult world having to be told or made to go somewhere is generally not a pleasant or positive experience. So they feel like being made to go stand somewhere other then where they are standing is punitive.

Overall though I don't see this as a big issue in games we do.

What if you are trial coach is a foot or 2 on the court and there is a fast break the other way and you end up running into or brushing into the coach? Any body have a problem with an immediate T here (waiting until the fast break finishes if it is the opposing team of course?)

[Mregor]

Originally Posted by Sharpshooternes

What if you are trial coach is a foot or 2 on the court and there is a fast break the other way and you end up running into or brushing into the coach? Any body have a problem with an immediate T here (waiting until the fast break finishes if it is the opposing team of course?)

No problem with that at all.

[shavano]

Originally Posted by Adam

I rarely have a coach say anything other than, "Oh, sorry."

Same here.

[just another ref]

The coaching box rule is like the elbow T and the running out of bounds T. It should be changed to something that will be enforced.

jmo

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by just another ref

The coaching box rule is like the elbow T and the running out of bounds T. It should be changed to something that will be enforced.

jmo

Honestly, I wish they would go with the college box for HS. I think trying to limit someone to a very small area is kind of silly. Or take away the box all together. Even with those possible changes, we would still have to tell a coach to comply and I just cannot understand why we have to even ask in the first place.

Peace

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

Honestly, I wish they would go with the college box for HS. I think trying to limit someone to a very small area is kind of silly.

Agree. Just keep them on their half of the court, and a few feet away from the table.

[JetMetFan]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

Honestly, I wish they would go with the college box for HS. I think trying to limit someone to a very small area is kind of silly.

Trust me, it doesn't help. NYC uses the college box in boys and girls. The coaches complain just as much when you tell them to move back.

[just another ref]

Forget the coaching box. Just make the area directly in front of the table a forbidden zone. That's kinda the way it's enforced around here now.

[Rich]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

Honestly, I wish they would go with the college box for HS. I think trying to limit someone to a very small area is kind of silly. Or take away the box all together. Even with those possible changes, we would still have to tell a coach to comply and I just cannot understand why we have to even ask in the first place.

Peace

I'd be thrilled with the college box in HS games. Did a game on a college court yesterday that wasn't marked and I almost said something to one of the coaches who was near the end line. Then I noticed they hadn't marked a HS box and the coach was just coaching and I let it alone completely.

Seat belt rule in all but varsity here. That's even worse, IMO.

[Mregor]

Originally Posted by Rich

I'd be thrilled with the college box in HS games. Did a game on a college court yesterday that wasn't marked and I almost said something to one of the coaches who was near the end line. Then I noticed they hadn't marked a HS box and the coach was just coaching and I let it alone completely.

Seat belt rule in all but varsity here. That's even worse, IMO.

Rich - do you still have an 8' box too?

[Rich]

Originally Posted by Mregor

Rich - do you still have an 8' box too?

It was a 6' box when I moved here. It's been a 14' box for a while now.

[DKremer]

Originally Posted by just another ref

The coaching box rule is like the elbow T and the running out of bounds T. It should be changed to something that will be enforced.

jmo

I was under the impression that the running out of bounds T was changed to a violation (which also isn't called)?