Concussion question?

[maven]

I don't mean to be rude, but didn't you answer your own question? Follow the procedure dictated by the state (my state's is almost identical), especially #6.

Or is your real question about the state procedure?

[OKREF]

Here if we have the symptoms we make them leave. They may not return unless cleared by a licensed medical staff. If they return we do not question anything. We are to assume they have been cleared.

[JRutledge]

I am not understanding the question either if you mentioned the policy. My state we have a state law where players cannot be cleared except from a Doctor or a Certified Athletic Trainer. After we send them out, the law takes over as to who that person is or the school's responsibility for who those people are to clear a player. And when they tell us they can come back in, they better have done their duty. We also file a "Special Report" for every incident and then the school has to answer to the IHSA with what they did. We are out of the mix after that point. This might not be your state's policy, but follow the policy and I cannot see how you can go wrong.

Peace

[MD Longhorn]

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Ok.. now, what was my question?

[OKREF]

Looks like 6- C is your answer. Don't really understand why you would even be asking this.

[BayStateRef]

I think the OP points to several larger issues involving concussion and concussion-like symptoms.

The key to this question is actually in your state rule 6A,

An athlete determined to have a concussion or have concussion-like symptoms will be removed from practice or competition and is not allowed to return to practice or competition that same day.

Did you determine the player had "concussion-like symptoms." If so, they may not return that day. End of discussion. No written approval from doctors, etc. can overcome this first standard.

If you did not make that determination (based on everything earlier in the state policy and other concussion training you may have), did the training staff? If so, the same rule applies. There is no exception.

My state has the same requirements: if a player exhibits signs of a concussion, they may not return to play or practice that day. No exceptions.

As officials, we are required in Massachusetts to take a course on concussion recognition annually. We have independent judgment and authority to determine whether a player has concussion-like symptoms. If we make that decision, the player cannot return to play that day, no matter what.

I would much prefer to defer to the judgment of athletic trainers and health professionals, since my knowledge is limited to the on-line courses and related material I read.

[rockyroad]

I actually understand the question...most of the "policy" the OP provided is really directed at the schools and the coaching/athletic staff. Most do the State policies I have seen look very similar. Very few say anything about our responsibilities and what we should do...our job is mostly outlined in the rule book and mechanics manual.

If we see signs or symptoms, we send the player off and notify the coach. If/when the coach sends the player back into the game, it is their responsibility to have had the player checked out and cleared. The liability is theirs. If we see more signs or symptoms, then we send the player back out of the game.

[jeremy341a]

Originally Posted by rockyroad

I actually understand the question...most of the "policy" the OP provided is really directed at the schools and the coaching/athletic staff. Most do the State policies I have seen look very similar. Very few say anything about our responsibilities and what we should do...our job is mostly outlined in the rule book and mechanics manual.

If we see signs or symptoms, we send the player off and notify the coach. If/when the coach sends the player back into the game, it is their responsibility to have had the player checked out and cleared. The liability is theirs. If we see more signs or symptoms, then we send the player back out of the game.

This is it. This is why I was asking because early in the policy it basically states the it is not up to the official to decide. I was wondering if you guys thought that #6 was referring to the schools/coaches responsibility. That is the way I took it.

I should have asked more clearly. As an official if you see a player have concussion symptoms and then later return to the game then this is nothing the official should be concerned with correct? All liability is on the coach and/or school?