Who's the shooter?

[RookieDude]

I think most officials have probably "lost a shooter" some how, some way during their career.

I can't believe you guys couldn't get a player to fess up. I guess we have been persuasive enough when this situation has come up...I suppose if you couldn't get an answer from the shooting team...maybe you could ask the person that got called for the foul who they fouled.?

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by JugglingReferee

What other option is there? (Asking the other team's coach isn't one of them. And there is no IR even if it is there.)

Mybe I'm slow this morning -- IR?

Originally Posted by RookieDude

I can't believe you guys couldn't get a player to fess up. I guess we have been persuasive enough when this situation has come up...I suppose if you couldn't get an answer from the shooting team...maybe you could ask the person that got called for the foul who they fouled.?

"Psst -- hey, who were you guarding?" (assuming that it wasn't a secondary defender, or a scrum-on-a-rebound foul, etc.)

[JugglingReferee]

Originally Posted by bob jenkins

Mybe I'm slow this morning -- IR?

Sorry. By IR I meant video of some sort.

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by JugglingReferee

Sorry. By IR I meant video of some sort.

In NCAA, you can use the video monitor to determine who the shooter should be.

[JugglingReferee]

Originally Posted by bob jenkins

In NCAA, you can use the video monitor to determine who the shooter should be.

I usually reply as though games were high school unless NCAA is specifically mentioned. Maybe I should specify that. lol

[jTheUmp]

Happened to me several times in my first few years. Now I make it a point to say the shooter's number as part of my preliminary signal routine.

Whistle. Fist. "White 42, hold" "23 is our shooter". Then move to report to the table.

If I'm the non-calling official, I will verbalize the (Potential) shooter as soon as I can.

If a timeout is called, I blow the whistle, say "23's our shooter, timeout white" or somesuch.

Helps me remember it.

Of course, if all that fails.... I'd ask, in this order: partner(s), table, players, coaches (both of them). Hopefully it doesn't get past asking my partner(s).

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by jTheUmp

Now I make it a point to say the shooter's number as part of my preliminary signal routine. "White 42, hold" "23 is our shooter".

With the encouragement of my local interpreter, I tried this about twenty-five years ago. By the time I got to the table, it became, ""White 23, hold" "42 is our shooter". Must be something wrong with the axons, and dendrites, in my brain. Now, I just point to the shooter for the benefit of my partner.

[Rich]

Originally Posted by jTheUmp

Happened to me several times in my first few years. Now I make it a point to say the shooter's number as part of my preliminary signal routine.

Whistle. Fist. "White 42, hold" "23 is our shooter". Then move to report to the table.

If I'm the non-calling official, I will verbalize the (Potential) shooter as soon as I can.

If a timeout is called, I blow the whistle, say "23's our shooter, timeout white" or somesuch.

Helps me remember it.

Of course, if all that fails.... I'd ask, in this order: partner(s), table, players, coaches (both of them). Hopefully it doesn't get past asking my partner(s).

If you're my partner, I don't want you to call out a number. Get my shooter -- point at him and say, "Shooter!" but giving the number there would likely scramble my brain at an inopportune moment.

[Rich]

Originally Posted by RookieDude

I think most officials have probably "lost a shooter" some how, some way during their career.

I can't believe you guys couldn't get a player to fess up. I guess we have been persuasive enough when this situation has come up...I suppose if you couldn't get an answer from the shooting team...maybe you could ask the person that got called for the foul who they fouled.?

It happens more than once in a career. It's why the NCAA allows the officials to go to the monitor -- it happens to them, too.

Happened to me this season and, fortunately, we figured it out pretty quickly.