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OKREF Tue Jan 08, 2013 11:59am

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Originally Posted by Rich (Post 870877)
Just about the worst possible thing an official could say to a coach in that situation, IMO.

I didn't say it. I heard it from a college ref.

bob jenkins Tue Jan 08, 2013 12:03pm

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Originally Posted by OKREF (Post 870878)
I didn't say it. I heard it from a college ref.

It's a good saying to teach about how it should be called, and some college officials can get away with saying stuff to coaches that might cause problems for others. I would be very unlikely to say that to a coach during a game.

OKREF Tue Jan 08, 2013 12:12pm

He said during a high school game. Be calls some D 2 & 3.

tjones1 Tue Jan 08, 2013 12:27pm

Most assigners I deal with say their biggest problem is dealing with things officials say to coaches. Therefore, most assigners will tell you: "you can't quote silence."

tomegun Tue Jan 08, 2013 12:49pm

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Originally Posted by OKREF (Post 870883)
He said during a high school game. Be calls some D 2 & 3.

Totally off the subject, but someone once told me this and I agree: an official is whatever he/she does the most of. If the official you are referring to does mostly high school basketball...he is a high school ref.

This may be just the officials I have dealt with, but it cracks me up when someone has 5 college games and says something like, "You may have to help me with an interpretation if I try to use a college rule". Really?

tjones1 Tue Jan 08, 2013 12:53pm

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Originally Posted by tomegun (Post 870899)
Totally off the subject, but someone once told me this and I agree: an official is whatever he/she does the most of. If the official you are referring to does mostly high school basketball...he is a high school ref.

This may be just the officials I have dealt with, but it cracks me up when someone has 5 college games and says something like, "You may have to help me with an interpretation if I try to use a college rule". Really?

I don't understand that either. Work two rule sets... know two rule sets. Simple enough.

Adam Tue Jan 08, 2013 12:54pm

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Originally Posted by tomegun (Post 870899)
Totally off the subject, but someone once told me this and I agree: an official is whatever he/she does the most of. If the official you are referring to does mostly high school basketball...he is a high school ref.

This may be just the officials I have dealt with, but it cracks me up when someone has 5 college games and says something like, "You may have to help me with an interpretation if I try to use a college rule". Really?

Love the humble brag.

Tio Tue Jan 08, 2013 01:01pm

Yes, as an official you are responsible for knowing the gym (and rules) you are in that night. I never bring up my schedule because nothing good can come of it. When you work a HS game, you are a HS ref. When you work a NCAA game, you are an NCAA ref.

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Originally Posted by Adam (Post 870904)
Love the humble brag.


BillyMac Tue Jan 08, 2013 01:03pm

Please Don't Say It ...
 
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Originally Posted by Tio (Post 870909)
When you work a HS game, you are a HS ref. When you work a NCAA game, you are an NCAA ref.

... and when I work a Catholic middle school game, I'm a ... Heh? Wait a minute?

JRutledge Tue Jan 08, 2013 01:25pm

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Originally Posted by tomegun (Post 870899)
Totally off the subject, but someone once told me this and I agree: an official is whatever he/she does the most of. If the official you are referring to does mostly high school basketball...he is a high school ref.

This may be just the officials I have dealt with, but it cracks me up when someone has 5 college games and says something like, "You may have to help me with an interpretation if I try to use a college rule". Really?

In my experience it is more about if you are on a staff or if you were hired to work conference games than if you work more. At least around here that can be exposed very easily when someone starts talking like they work "college" and no one knows them or has worked with them. Kind of a closed community much more than on the high school side.

And honestly I call the game the same at least when it comes to judgments. The rules are very easy to know IMO too at the college level.

Peace

Brad Tue Jan 08, 2013 01:31pm

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Originally Posted by Rich (Post 870856)
I disagree with you. For all the crap we've given people for saying "baseline" instead of "end line", we can get this one right, too. It's a backcourt violation. Period.

I think that part of the reasoning behind being a little nit-picky on the terminology is that "over and back" is not necessarily a backcourt violation. In bringing the ball to the frontcourt, you can be part of the way across (over) and then return to the backcourt (and back) —*and it is not a violation.

Brad Tue Jan 08, 2013 01:32pm

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Originally Posted by Rich (Post 870863)
I never say walk. Why would an official ever?

I always have ... one syllable ... a lot easier than saying "travelling".

I don't know if I remember many people using "travelling" ... of course, we do things different down in Texas ... on technical fouls sometimes we add, "YeeHaw!!!"

Brad Tue Jan 08, 2013 01:34pm

perjorative

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Brad Tue Jan 08, 2013 01:35pm

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Originally Posted by Rich (Post 870877)

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Originally Posted by OKREF (Post 870876)
Yes coach he was over the back. When he gets on the back I will call it.

Just about the worst possible thing an official could say to a coach in that situation, IMO.

Completely disagree. The worst possible thing an official could say is, "Yeah, well I saw your wife last night ... she was ON her back!! BOOM!!!!"

JRutledge Tue Jan 08, 2013 01:52pm

Pejorative means a negative connotation or usage. Officials obviously think certain words are negative in nature as it relates to officiating language and why we often argue on this site over things like these terms.

Peace


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