Colorado vs Arizona - Shot at the Buzzer

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by Manny A

I don't referee basketball, so I certainly don't know the rules on the use of replay in the NCAAs. But is the "inconclusive" criterion even used in basketball replays as it is in football?

"When definitive information is unattainable with the use of the monitor, the original call stands." 5-7.2.b

[letemplay]

Originally Posted by bob jenkins

"When definitive information is unattainable with the use of the monitor, the original call stands." 5-7.2.b

Wasn't the original call a made 3-pointer?

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by letemplay

Wasn't the original call a made 3-pointer?

I see the attempt signalled, but I don't see anyone signalling that it was good (i.e., released before the 0:00.0 or red lights). Not saying that they didn't, only that I don't know.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by bob jenkins

I see the attempt signalled, but I don't see anyone signalling that it was good (i.e., released before the 0:00.0 or red lights). Not saying that they didn't, only that I don't know.

This is one of these we would have to talk to the crew issues. He certainly did not "bang" it in like you normally see. I think these guys are so used to last second shots being reviewed they just go to the monitor and not do anything. Not saying that is right, but that certainly seems to be what was done in this specific case.

Peace

[Jesse James]

End zone camera clearly shows 3-signal plus touchdown signal from the C. Doesn't bang it.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by Jesse James

End zone camera clearly shows 3-signal plus touchdown signal from the C. Doesn't bang it.

We know that part, but he does not count it and that is the key. Normally I would always use the "count the basket signal" even if it is a successful 3 point shot.

Peace

[Jesse James]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

We know that part, but he does not count it and that is the key. Normally I would always use the "count the basket signal" even if it is a successful 3 point shot.

Peace

He doesn't wipe it off either. So, given a 3-signal and touchdown, which is most likely the original call, bucket or no?

[canuckrefguy]

I don't think the ball was completely out of the shooter's hand when time expired. But I also don't think it could be any closer. Good grief.

The coach does acknowledge his team's role in gassing the big lead, so have to give him a nod for that.

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by Jesse James

End zone camera clearly shows 3-signal plus touchdown signal from the C. Doesn't bang it.

Thanks. that's "counting it" in my book. No need to "bang" it home on a three -- "banging" is a two point mechanic.

The call should have stood, imo -- not enough evidence to overturn (again, depending on what they saw on their monitor).

[dahoopref]

They system used is the Xos Digital system. It is shot with HD cameras (2 sidelines and 2 endzone) but the feed shown on the monitor is not in HD. It is a separate feed than what is shown from the broadcast. In my experience with the Xos system, I have not seen a broadcast feed shown in the non-HD monitor when reviewing a play.

IOW, the crew most likely did not see the ESPN camera version of the play and were left to decide using the Xos version of the play on a small monitor in non-HD.

[JetMetFan]

Originally Posted by dahoopref

IOW, the crew most likely did not see the ESPN camera version of the play and were left to decide using the Xos version of the play on a small monitor in non-HD.

Crews in TV games get the same camera angles used on the broadcast. That's why they're in contact with the production truck on monitor plays.

[dahoopref]

Originally Posted by JetMetFan

Crews in TV games get the same camera angles used on the broadcast. That's why they're in contact with the production truck on monitor plays.

One with no previous knowledge of the Xos system used by the Pac12, WCC, and Big West would think so but, knowing the system like I do, the crew is in contact with the Xos camera guys not the production truck.