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grunewar Fri Jan 04, 2013 05:00am

Colorado vs Arizona - Shot at the Buzzer
 
Tad Boyle, Colorado Buffaloes basketball coach, wants end to instant replay after controversial overturned call - ESPN

JRutledge Fri Jan 04, 2013 05:22am

If he did not have replay then he would accuse the officials of having it out for them. Bottom line he got out coached down the stretch of regulation and lost on a very, very, very close call. I first thought the shot would count, then when they showed the angles it was not clear. I could see the call either way.

What he needs to be mad at the kid that fouled 30 feet from the basket to tie the game, not replay.

Peace

BillyMac Fri Jan 04, 2013 07:39am

Take A Letter Maria (R.B. Greaves) ...
 
Somebody should write a letter.

derwil Fri Jan 04, 2013 08:36am

Quote:

Originally Posted by JRutledge (Post 869989)
Bottom line he got out coached down the stretch of regulation and lost on a very, very, very close call. I first thought the shot would count, then when they showed the angles it was not clear. I could see the call either way.

Up 8 with 90 seconds to play, you shouldn't have to get a 35 footer at the buzzer to win.....

I don't think I could have overturned on that replay, but I wasn't there and don't work D1. Much respect to them for a tough call.....should have never been that close.

letemplay Fri Jan 04, 2013 08:41am

If you're gonna have and use replay...then get it right. Seems like the shot should have been good by just a hair. Why was it not?

Rich Fri Jan 04, 2013 08:52am

I haven't even watched the clip, but I'm going to have my morning coffee while reading the mouth-breather comments at the end of the article.

dahoopref Fri Jan 04, 2013 09:19am

Quote:

Originally Posted by JRutledge (Post 869989)
I first thought the shot would count, then when they showed the angles it was not clear. I could see the call either way.

What he needs to be mad at the kid that fouled 30 feet from the basket to tie the game, not replay.

I thought the exact same way. The C at the bottom of the screen (Verne Harris) signals the 3pt attempt but I didn't see the other hand go up upon the ball going in; then again, if the 3 pt signal is given, the ruling before replay should be a good basket.

Most D1 games on the west coast, have a system in place to for video review (whether the game is televised on ESPN, Fox, CBS, or not). The monitor that is used courtside is NOT in HD; I have used the system and the picture definition is average at best. The best angle of the shot being released on time is the side angle. Even then, it was difficult to determine from the confines of my 1080p television at home; I can only image what the crew was looking at from the non-HD courtside monitor.

Was there enough to overturn the original ruling of a made bucket? I'm not so sure but then again, we didn't see the version of what the crew saw courtside with the non-HD monitor.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pac-12 coordinator of officials Ed Rush issued the following statement
"Game officials reviewed video replays of the end of regulation in accordance with NCAA playing rules and determined the ball was still on the shooters' fingertips when the official game clock on the floor expired. Per Conference protocol, the officials conducted a thorough review court side and viewed multiple angles of the play before confirming the ruling. I have reviewed the video replays and agree with the ruling."


Wellmer Fri Jan 04, 2013 09:24am

Watching the video, was the shot originally called good or not? I didn't see any signal from any official at all. What do they do if they go over to the monitor and the video malfunctioned by chance and there is no video to look at? I know that didn't happen, but what if it did? You have to make a call on the floor one way or another. Help me out if I missed the call.

JugglingReferee Fri Jan 04, 2013 10:06am

Quote:

Originally Posted by dahoopref (Post 870008)
I thought the exact same way. The C at the bottom of the screen (Verne Harris) signals the 3pt attempt but I didn't see the other hand go up upon the ball going in; then again, if the 3 pt signal is given, the ruling before replay should be a good basket.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wellmer (Post 870009)
Watching the video, was the shot originally called good or not? I didn't see any signal from any official at all.

The calling official signaled that the shot was successful.

http://i.imgur.com/9argw.png

refiator Fri Jan 04, 2013 10:06am

I happen to agree with the coach. I have never been a fan of instant replay. I understand the upside, but prefer to leave the human element in the game. Call me a purist......;)

JugglingReferee Fri Jan 04, 2013 10:10am

I will take Ed Rush's word for it; as a general rule I think those guys are great decision makers.

I would still like to see other replays, etc, such as what Mr. Rush saw. Just so that I/we can see exactly how close this one was. I'd dare say it's among the closest I've ever seen!

Andy Fri Jan 04, 2013 10:13am

I love how everybody cries and moans for more instant replay to "get it right", then when instant replay is used to make the cal, they still moan and groan...just makes me laugh.....:)

Tio Fri Jan 04, 2013 10:30am

Yep... this is a no win. Remember, the officials HAVE to make a call on the floor, then can go to replay to review. Having seen the play, it is so close that it is really hard to referee without replay assistance.

JetMetFan Fri Jan 04, 2013 10:51am

Here's some video...
 
Here's the video from the game and freezes provided by ESPNU. I also put in a ten-second freeze of the moment the LED light goes on. Discuss

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jeremy341a Fri Jan 04, 2013 10:54am

I'm not saying this is right but I speculate that the call was close enough it was easier to wave it off and play overtime. That way the players were determining the outcome of the game. Note: I don't agree with this but have a feeling that is what was going through their minds.


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