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[HawkeyeCubP]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

I can live with the no call on this as the contact took place mostly after the dunk.

I'm replaying and freezing with my play-cursor at about 5.75 seconds and the ball is still in the shooter's hand and the knee to the jaw/chest has just happened and the defender is already moving backward from the contact.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by HawkeyeCubP

I'm replaying and freezing with my play-cursor at about 5.75 seconds and the ball is still in the shooter's hand and the knee to the jaw/chest has just happened and the defender is already moving backward from the contact.

Is he moving laterally while the player was in the air?

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[HawkeyeCubP]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

Is he moving laterally while the player was in the air?

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Possibly, but I don't think definitively from the camera's view (defender's teammate is largely blocking the camera's view of the defender's feet). My point was simply that the shooter's knee to the defender, causing the defender to be moved backward and knocked down, happened before the ball was released/was in the basket - and that I don't see any other contact.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by HawkeyeCubP

Possibly, but I don't think definitively from the camera's view (defender's teammate is largely blocking the camera's view of the defender's feet). My point was simply that the shooter's knee to the defender, causing the defender to be moved backward and knocked down, happened before the ball was released/was in the basket - and that I don't see any other contact.

Not disputing the contact with the knee, but the movement of the legs were not unnatural or trying to create contact with the legs to get a foul. I do not equate this like a forearm shove to create space to make a play or get a shot off. It just looks to me from live that the defender slid over. Yes he might have been backing up slightly, but he cannot move into the shooter if he is airborne. As I said it is very close, but even with that contact it is not egregious to warrant an automatic foul from me either way.

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