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[JRutledge]

I can live with the no call on this as the contact took place mostly after the dunk. So to me the contact is mostly incidental as it did not prevent the dunk from happening and the play was basically over. I guess I can see a block or charge call here, but I would need another look or angle to see if the defender was not moving sideways when the player went airborne.

Peace

[JugglingReferee]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

I can live with the no call on this as the contact took place mostly after the dunk. So to me the contact is mostly incidental as it did not prevent the dunk from happening and the play was basically over. I guess I can see a block or charge call here, but I would need another look or angle to see if the defender was not moving sideways when the player went airborne.

Peace

Hogwash. The only contact after the dunk was B hitting the ground after being illegal contacted.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by JugglingReferee

Hogwash. The only contact after the dunk was B hitting the ground after being illegal contacted.

Hogwash?

The contact or the action that put the player on the floor mostly took place after the ball was through the hoop. If you want to come in and say that is a foul, fine. I can see why it was not called and it might have been the judgment of the official that this was going to be a block and called nothing because the play was completed. Which would have made it incidental contact by rule if no one was put at an disadvantage.

Peace

[JugglingReferee]

Wow, you're right!

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by JugglingReferee

Wow, you're right!

I am really not looking for your approval either way. And I do not need to color the font to make that statement.

Peace

[JugglingReferee]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

I am really not looking for your approval either way. And I do not need to color the font to make that statement.

Peace

Thanks for that.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by JugglingReferee

Thanks for that.

You are the one that was all puffy about my opinion.

Peace

[Brad]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

I am really not looking for your approval either way. And I do not need to color the font to make that statement.

Peace

It's a new forum rule ... whenever someone agrees with you they have to put it in the blue font.

Makes it easier to find in the thread with no worries about having blue everywhere, since it doesn't happen very often.

[DLH17]

Originally Posted by JugglingReferee

Wow, you're right!

LOVE the blue font!

[IUgrad92]

I have illegal contact above the shoulders by A1. It appears that B2 may have a possible concussion. Wave off the basket and I have an intentional foul on A1.

[DLH17]

Officiate the defense...very very close, but looks like a block to me. Defender doesn't establish LGP before the shooter jumps. Add a little bit of shoulder nudge by the defender and that seals it for me. Then again, I had the benefit of watching it 6 times before making 'my call'.

[Raymond]

If that was me in the Lead I probably would have called a Block. Then I would have seen the tape and I say I got the play wrong.

Of course, I'm what's wrong with basketball officiating in this nation.

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

The contact or the action that put the player on the floor mostly took place after the ball was through the hoop.

I'm confused about this play, and I'm at work and don't have my books. In the case of a dunker, is the ball dead when it passes through the hoop, or does the ball remain live until the airborne shooter returns to the floor?

[just another ref]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

I'm confused about this play, and I'm at work and don't have my books. In the case of a dunker, is the ball dead when it passes through the hoop, or does the ball remain live until the airborne shooter returns to the floor?

It is dead, but for the purpose of a personal foul, by or against an airborne shooter, it doesn't matter.

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

In the case of a dunker, is the ball dead when it passes through the hoop, or does the ball remain live until the airborne shooter returns to the floor?

Originally Posted by just another ref

It is dead, but for the purpose of a personal foul, by or against an airborne shooter, it doesn't matter.

So does JRutledge's statement, "The contact or the action that put the player on the floor mostly took place after the ball was through the hoop" really make any difference in interpreting this play?