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Old Wed Jan 02, 2013, 10:13am
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Hopefully everyone checks to ensure the teams are going the proper direction to start the game, second half, OT, etc. Especially when the period starts with a jump ball we need to make sure the game starts properly. This is so easy to do, but we all have lapses in concentration. All 3 bear equal burden for this big mistake.

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He wasn't sure.

He moved to his proper mechanics spot after he the outcome of the toss. After he was on/near the base line, he was likely 97% sure of the error, but knew it'd be a reeeeeeally bad call if he was wrong (his only correct decision on the play). And in the time he took (likely around 2-3 seconds) to check, the drive started coming toward him, so he let it go. He clearly signaled for the GT call, which should have stuck, and the non-scoring team a TI under the appropriate basket.

So the crew screwed up the rule there. They should have all met together and discussed what happened and how to proceed. Each official gets a voice.


Also watch the U1 position after the toss. He takes a small step backwards after he sees black obtain the jump. He thinks he's going to the L spot. But when he see black go the other way, and everyone else too, he sorta fades away. He never becomes the slot, and stays out of the video range the whole time. So he likely knew something was up too. But I'd say less than 97%. If he was 100% sure, he would have whistled play before the drive and set things straight.

It appears that the only official who had no clue is the tosser.


This is why every official doesn't just give the status quo thumbs-up. In your dead ball officiating, you assume responsibility as though you're the CC for setting up the play. Examples: the U2 also checks direction, the FJ also checks penalty application, the line judge also checks the score for switching sides at 12 points (or whatever the rule is).
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Old Wed Jan 02, 2013, 10:23am
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If by mistake the officials permit a team to go the wrong direction, when discovered all points scored, fouls committed, and time consumed shall count as if each team had gone the proper direction. Play shall resume with each team going the proper direction based on bench location.

Seems the goaltending should have counted, Marquette ball, possession arrow to Marquette.
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Old Wed Jan 02, 2013, 11:06am
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NFHS 4-5-4

If by mistake the officials permit a team to go the wrong direction, when discovered all points scored, fouls committed, and time consumed shall count as if each team had gone the proper direction. Play shall resume with each team going the proper direction based on bench location.

Seems the goaltending should have counted, Marquette ball, possession arrow to Marquette.
Correct. It was the officials' screw-up. In this case you wouldn't penalize the players for the officials' mistake.
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NFHS 4-5-4

If by mistake the officials permit a team to go the wrong direction, when discovered all points scored, fouls committed, and time consumed shall count as if each team had gone the proper direction. Play shall resume with each team going the proper direction based on bench location.

Seems the goaltending should have counted, Marquette ball, possession arrow to Marquette.
While the NCAAM rule may be exactly the same (I have no idea), citing a high school rule for a college play is not really relevant.
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Old Wed Jan 02, 2013, 11:11am
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While the NCAAM rule may be exactly the same (I have no idea), citing a high school rule for a college play is not really relevant.
It is relevant to those of us who don't call college and might have this play come up. Or is this situation limited to only the NCAA?
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Old Wed Jan 02, 2013, 11:17am
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It is relevant to those of us who don't call college and might have this play come up. Or is this situation limited to only the NCAA?
I agree that it is absolutely relevant to an equivalent high school play. I was just saying in the context you wrote it, it had no relevance because you drew a conclusion for the college scenario based on a high school rule reference.
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